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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:37 pm 
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Just reading in BRBL #2 a scathing article on kiln dried woods.

I know it is impractical to demand all guitar woods be air dried, but basicly the article says kiln drying kills the wood cells, kills tone, Its really dark.

Should dealers stock premium grade as ' air dried' and charge more?

I suppose its a can of worms, it shouldnt be, but hey, that what can openers are for...

Should we be asking, loudly for air-dried woods? beehive

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:39 pm 
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OK, what is "BRBL?"

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:42 pm 
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Frei wrote:
Just reading in BRBL #2 a scathing article on kiln dried woods.

I know it is impractical to demand all guitar woods be air dried, but basicly the article says kiln drying kills the wood cells....


I thought cutting the tree down is what killed the cells ;)

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...kills tone....


I can't speak to the scientific properties of kiln dried wood vs air dried but I can say that almost every top I've ever built with comes from a supplier that kiln dries all their wood and I've gotten some fantastic sets with amazing sound.

Here's a link to an article that reports on testing of strength in air dried vs. kiln. http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/dspac ... 0_1952.pdf

No difference was found but it does point out that it can be hard to get air dried wood to a low enough moisture content. In discussions about baking top wood, some people make some pretty bold claims that baking tops has a profound positive effect on strength/weith ratio. I've never seen evidence of that in the kiln dried tops I've baked and tested and it makes me wonder if those results are coming from air dried wood that still has more bound water than kiln dried.

I'm quite skeptical that there would be any negative to properly kiln dried wood. Is there a copy of that article on line anywhere?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:34 pm 
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beehive

I'll have to paraphrase the article....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:30 pm 
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If kiln drying destroys the wood cell structure, (which is what some claim makes a strad a strad) then I would think his opinions would be why isnt there more 'air dried' wood available as higher grade option?

If new methods of kiln drying are used, that don't destroy wood cell structure, then kiln dry would ressemble air dry and it would be progress from the dark ages.

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