Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:49 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Bracing?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:23 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm
Posts: 2946
Location: United States
I'm drawing up plans for a jumbo, roughly based on a Taylor. In checking out Taylors posted pic of their bracing I ran across some panels above the soundhole and at the neck block. They're not very thick in appearance. I believe they're reinforcement for the neck mounting system, but I thought I'd ask if anybody here knows much about them.

As I don't plan to use their mounting approach. I was going to just leave them out! Any comments!

Attachment:
Taylor jumbo.gif


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Billy Dean Thomas
Covina, CA

"Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur."
(Many fear their reputation, few their conscience)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bracing?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:11 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:15 pm
Posts: 2302
Location: Florida
IMHO They appear to be cross grained panels that are added to help eliminate the chance of a crack developing in the top along the sides of the fingerboard.

Taylor uses a different type of fingerboard extension attachment than the "standard" way of doing it, so these can most likely be left out if you are building a conventionally attached fingerboard.

_________________
Reguards,

Ken H


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bracing?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:03 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:32 pm
Posts: 64
Location: Canada
Funny, I was just thinking about doing the same thing. I couldnt tell for sure but I thought Taylor actually routed out the under side of the top a bit and inlayed the reinforcement. Not sure it would matter though.

Warren.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bracing?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:51 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:32 pm
Posts: 64
Location: Canada
Sorry, misunderstood your post. I was actually thinking of putting a cross grain piece similiar to that instead of the popsicle brace.

Warren.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bracing?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:45 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm
Posts: 2946
Location: United States
ToddStock wrote:
..... If you are going to use an adjustable neck design like Taylor, you'll need something similar; otherwise, probably not.


No, I'm not going to use the Taylor joint, even though I admire it. I'm pretty sure it's just reinforcement too. Just thinking I'd pass it by, as I have never seen it on any other guitar.

_________________
Billy Dean Thomas
Covina, CA

"Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur."
(Many fear their reputation, few their conscience)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bracing?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:50 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:28 pm
Posts: 61
Location: Abbotsford BC, Canada
About the upper panel.. How do you plan to make this work with your neck block? Would you cut the block short (by the thickness of the panel) and glue the top of the block to the panel or would you cut the panel around the neck block and glue directly to the top?

Also if you plan on using flat panels on the upper soundhole edge, have you given any consideration to making a larger patch to double the entire area around the soundhole? You can then eliminate the finger braces around the soundhole. I've used this approach on my last 3 guitars and I've really taken to that method. Just thought I'd mention it...

Cheers,
Chad

EDIT: I just realized you said you were NOT planing on adding the panel patches. gaah


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bracing?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:27 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm
Posts: 2946
Location: United States
Chad wrote:
About the upper panel.. How do you plan to make this work with your neck block?
EDIT: I just realized you said you were NOT planing on adding the panel patches. gaah


Right, I was just interested in the panels themselves, and planned to eliminate them as reinforcement. I think Taylor glues the panels down to the neck block because of the joint relief being CNC cut right into the block itself after the box is built.

Looks like nobody else knows anything more than I do.
Thanks guys! [:Y:]

_________________
Billy Dean Thomas
Covina, CA

"Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur."
(Many fear their reputation, few their conscience)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Tom G and 45 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com