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 Post subject: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:23 pm 
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In the Kinkead book, he says that, when fitting the Dovetail join, to leave the neck a little proud, my question is how proud is a little proud? also why should I do this?

Thank for all you help thus far [clap] , it should not be too long before I have finished #1 bliss

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:31 pm 
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so you'll have material to remove from the cheeks when you're setting the neck angle to the body


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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:27 pm 
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I thought he meant leave the neck a bit higher than the soundboard??? idunno

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:52 pm 
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Proud of the guitar top at the joint. When fitting the neck to the body you will remove more material from the cheeks of the heel and this will loosen your dovetail somewhat so leaving the neck a bit proud of the top means you may not have to shim the dovetail when everything is angled and fitted.
Gee, I hope this makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
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Thanks Cal for the clarification.

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:58 pm 
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but this is during fitting the neck to the body, his last instruction involving the dovetail join is to leave the neck slightly proud?

should I do this? or just make it flush with the sound board?

I'm very confused now... have i just got the wrong end of the stick (again)? lol

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:26 am 
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I have never seen the book you talk about, but if you can't seat the fingerboard extension flush to the top by dry clamping, you won't be able to seat it flush with glue in the joint--if that's what you are talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:26 pm 
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Cheers Howard, that clears things up a bit i think

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 Post subject: Re: Dovetail
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:23 am 
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I leave my neck slightly proud of the sound board before glue up.,....about the thickness of a credit card. Clamping pressure will push the neck down flush with the top. If youve got a few shims on the bottom of the tenon then these are going to compress up a little bit. Of course one day Ill do an M and T dovetail joint where NO shims are involved!

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In the Kinkead book, he says that, when fitting the Dovetail join, to leave the neck a little proud, my question is how proud is a little proud? also why should I do this?

Thank for all you help thus far [clap] , it should not be too long before I have finished #1 bliss


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