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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:51 am 
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Your link lists a bunch of tape... which one did you try? Always open to new ideas.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:25 am 
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I just bought some wood-turners tape from Rockler to try. It seems a bit heavier than carpet tape, but as you know, all carpet tape is not the same. I'm hoping it'll be easier to separate the backer from the tape, and hold well enough. It's expensive, but the roll is a big one.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:34 am 
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
Your link lists a bunch of tape... which one did you try? Always open to new ideas.

Mike


I'm not sure which one it is. I ordered it from McMaster. The tape just says Intertape on the inside.

The McMaster item number is 76405A13 (1" x 36 yds $7.93/roll)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:35 am 
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Special thanks to those who've shared actual experience with what I'm attempting to do.

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... (and my awesome push blocks)...


Got any pictures? I'm looking to replace my mediocre push blocks.

Kevin Looker


Hi Kevin,

I forgot my camera at the shop, but I made a quick render of the essentials to get the idea across. I have two blocks, one at about 10"
long and one at about 22" long. They're both made from 1.5"x3" chunks of mahogany I had around that had defects making them
unsuitable for necks. The handles are actually sawed-off heels from prototype acoustic necks :)
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Anyhow, the main thing that's different about them VS the normal plastic type push blocks you get is that there's a ledge at the back
which is used to push the work through the jointer, and in the case of smaller or thinner stock the block covers and supports the
backside of the work completely. This means that if you feed smoothly, you can run a very thin piece of stock across the jointer
without it vibrating and it'll give a good cut.

As I use thinner stock, the support at the back sometimes gets jointed down really thin (ie: 0.08"), so I just joint it off completely and
CA on a scrap of something in the 1/4" range to replace it. You don't need much ledge back there to work, 1/8" is fine, but I don't like
using it if it's much thinner than that.
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Having a really good two-handed grip on the 'stock' (handles of the block) does wonders for your feeding smoothness and control of the
cut. I never liked running thinner stock like fretboards over the jointer because the support on the back of the stock can never be
perfect if using regular short blocks. I used to use two blocks with one working as an 'outfeed pushdown' to keep constant pressure on
the cut, and I got good at it, but with the new blocks a complete newbie can make a clean cut on a thin piece of stock.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:40 am 
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On the topic of carpet tapes...well, I could go on all day. I use a lot of the stuff for some operations (though rarely to hold down parts, actually!).

Finding stuff that'll release well can be a problem. In the future, I'll be using the masking tape idea thrown out earlier on low-grab parts. If you're looking for the strongest stuff, though, go to a carpet place and ask for 'seam tape'. It's meant for joining carpets together at the seams and it is most certainly meant for permanence. I'd use it for putting jigs and stuff together...removing it is a challenge to say the least!

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Bob,

Thanks for sharing your push block design.

I never thought to put a tote on the front like a hand plane - great idea.

I'm definitely going to make a set.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:37 pm 
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Bob Garrish wrote:
On the topic of carpet tapes...well, I could go on all day. I use a lot of the stuff for some operations (though rarely to hold down parts, actually!).

Finding stuff that'll release well can be a problem. In the future, I'll be using the masking tape idea thrown out earlier on low-grab parts. If you're looking for the strongest stuff, though, go to a carpet place and ask for 'seam tape'. It's meant for joining carpets together at the seams and it is most certainly meant for permanence. I'd use it for putting jigs and stuff together...removing it is a challenge to say the least!


That tape is activated with heat from a special iron. It would be impossible to use them for jigs, unless you get the pressure activated adhesive type.

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