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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:03 pm 
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What’s the most efficient way to add dust collection to my little table?
My collection hose is 4”.
Would a port in the side do it?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:56 pm 
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No I don’t think so. The dust is created above the table, not below.

You need to build a fence with a Port right by the bit.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:00 am 
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Like so. That’s ok with a fence, but if I’m doing a freehand project like a mold, I’ll just taking a bag of birdshot and drop it on the hose behind the bit, and try to steer the dust into the hose...Image


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:17 am 
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Man, that brings back some memories! I used to have that same table. Anyhow, I've found that dust collection on a router table is problematic when you are doing pattern routing without a fence... cuz there's no good way to collect it, without putting something pretty close to the bit, which can really be obtrusive when routing many type of pattern shapes. However, when using a fence, I get darned near 100% collection through the table by using a dust port on the bottom of a box that encloses the router. It's very much like what you have except my router is buried in my table saw's side extension and the box is something I made from plywood to enclose the router and collect the dust.

What makes this work is a ramp I have in the back of the box that encourages dust to flow toward the front where the port is, and the port is right at the bottom of the box where it can be most effective. I used a short piece of pvc, which is just the right size for a standard 2" flexible dust hose. I attach that to my normal 4" dust hose with a plastic adapter.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:27 am 
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After many iterations I settled on dust collection from in the table and the fence. As mentioned pattern routing is particularly troublesome. I used what became known as the tarantula. Several hoses one at each side and two over the bit area held in place over the table by a jig using old mike stand parts especially useful are the stands that have the flexible portion to position the microphone


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:35 am 
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TerrenceMitchell wrote:
Man, that brings back some memories! I used to have that same table. Anyhow, I've found that dust collection on a router table is problematic when you are doing pattern routing without a fence... cuz there's no good way to collect it, without putting something pretty close to the bit, which can really be obtrusive when routing many type of pattern shapes. However, when using a fence, I get darned near 100% collection through the table by using a dust port on the bottom of a box that encloses the router. It's very much like what you have except my router is buried in my table saw's side extension and the box is something I made from plywood to enclose the router and collect the dust.

What makes this work is a ramp I have in the back of the box that encourages dust to flow toward the front where the port is, and the port is right at the bottom of the box where it can be most effective. I used a short piece of pvc, which is just the right size for a standard 2" flexible dust hose. I attach that to my normal 4" dust hose with a plastic adapter.

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Cool. This is my first router table actually .I cut a truss rod slot last night and it was SOOOO much easier than using a router edge guide haha (although I got a REALLY nice one for Christmas).
I picked up a good sized Bosch router with an easy height adjustment dedicated to the table too:)
I The table is close to a 2 HP Jet collector, so I'm sure I can construct a means by which to pick up the dust.
last night I just sucked it up when I was done, but when im doing template routing I'm sure something will need to be done.
Happy new year guys!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:00 am 
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Has anyone tried rigging up brushes like CNC's use?
https://www.amazon.com/cnc-brush/s?k=cnc+brush
https://www.amazon.com/Powermatic-PM-DS ... 65&sr=8-36


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:21 pm 
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Good question.

With the more awkward jobs I tend to have the hose from my shop vac in my left hand as I steer the router with my right and manoeuvre it as necessary to gather the chips.

As people have said you really need to collect from above which can be difficult for a fixed collector system.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:47 pm 
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Oneida sells this gizmo that looks potentially good:

https://www.oneida-air.com/universal-dust-free-router-hood-accessory-kit?_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6ujq56_07QIVQb2GCh3SagQNEAQYBSABEgIW__D_BwE

Don't know how it might work on a table though.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:56 am 
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I do have a fence for this table with a port behind the bit. I imagine it will work good should I use the fence. What got me thinking was I routed a tr slot and the fence wouldn’t move far enough back to get to the middle of the board so I had to remove it.


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