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 Post subject: Pingggg
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:40 am 
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I was tuning my wife's guitar last, it has a bone nut that I cut and slotted. I've made a bunch of nuts and adjusted slots in a bunch of instruments but I still get the occasional ping. I have the StewMAc nut files but that doesn't seem to be the whole answer. I cut the nut down to about half the string thickness and try to widen the peghead side to give the string a good path to the tuners. I don't use graphite, I don't think it should be necessary, I could be wrong.

So my question is, do you guys always get it right with no pings and if so, what do I need to do to step up my game?

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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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I've had no problems since I’ve begun finishing my slots with Mitchell's abrasive cord. Highly recommended.

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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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What size and grit do you use?

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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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For guitars, 54, 55S, 60S, and for basses 52. I get by with these four. You might skip the 60S if you’re not using 10s or smaller.

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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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You can get pings, if you use a StewMac 0.013" file for a 0.013" string and don't open up the sides by tilting the file a bit while working the slot. Most of the guitars I work on get used a lot (pros and serious amateurs) so I also put a little lube in the slot, mostly to minimize wear. I used to use trumpet slide oil (cause I had it) but recently started using D'Addario Friction Remover although Vaseline would probably work as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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Smylight wrote:
For guitars, 54, 55S, 60S, and for basses 52. I get by with these four. You might skip the 60S if you’re not using 10s or smaller.


This is an interesting tip. I have this stuff and would like to try it. Do you just floss a piece in the slots after you already have them as low as they will go? The cord isn't lowering the slot anymore?

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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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I know from my own misery that Vaseline can compromise the finish on some guitars. Maybe these other lubricants can, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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Graphite is a better and less harmful lubricant for nuts. Just take a pencil and draw a couple of lines in the nut slots.



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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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bcombs510 wrote:
Smylight wrote:
For guitars, 54, 55S, 60S, and for basses 52. I get by with these four. You might skip the 60S if you’re not using 10s or smaller.


This is an interesting tip. I have this stuff and would like to try it. Do you just floss a piece in the slots after you already have them as low as they will go? The cord isn't lowering the slot anymore?

I'll typically stop just short of my target, just to be sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Pingggg
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As far as lubrication goes we're talking very small amounts. It should never come close to the finish if done properly. Graphite is fine too.

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