Juergen wrote:
Hi Clay,
that`s the real truth, that we as amateurs can make a lot of mistakes without having nothing to eat next week
But as Hesh describes it is commen in the classical world to finish after glueing everything in place. On the other hand lifted or pulled off bridges are his daily repair work, and I have tried to find a possible answer in the way finishing is done beyond all other possibilities like bad glueing, not well done glueing surfaces etc.
Juergen build what you want how you want to build it and here is wishing you the best of luck with what you do.
It's my belief and experience and I am not alone either that all glue joints may fail in time and space or given the right circumstances. With guitars it's a question of when for a bridge to lift not if and as such makers should do what it takes so the instrument is serviceable in time and can live to play again after the bridge is reglued. I feel the same way about neck resets and Martin guitar just changed their view too to now expect that neck resets will be needed making them more normal wear and tear than a defect eligible for warranty service.
When you glue a bridge and clear finish to the perimeter and it's a steel string with a lot of tension we often see bridges plowing the finish on the leading edge before they lift on the back edge. Once this happens the top finish is visually compromised and the bridge footprint on the guitar top is larger than the bridge. This then requires finish touch-up and doubles the effort and price of the repair not to mention the time to complete. And it's not necessary.
Now your math on losing 10% of the gluing surface for rabbiting a bridge is flawed and incorrect. We estimate maybe 1.5 - 3% on a Martin style bridge with a rabbit .010" in from the perimeter. We did the math yesterday and that's what we arrived at.
There is also the issue of a non rabbited bridge spanning the finish ledge where the drop off where the finish ends prevents wood to wood connection for some distance inward. A rabbit eliminates this and where it's intended to have full wood-to-wood contact that's indeed what it has.
Others who rabbit bridges include some of the best makers in the world such as Collings Guitars.
Regarding your dismissal of using film when Professional Finishers and amateurs alike use it with no issues is also incorrect with your statement about residual adhesive. We remove that and in fact no bridge or bridge patch in our shop ever gets HHG applied until it has been freshly scraped with a very sharp scraper removing contamination and then debris is vacuumed off and then we glue.
And your statement about the top being weakened by finish clean-up or removal is not accurate either. As Eric Reid posted we do the same, very sharp chisel and some skill... and no wood or very little is removed just finish. We use very sharp chisels to expand the gluing area on lifted bridge to near the perimeter and then we rabbit. The bridge is also a brace and one of the most important braces on a guitar. If you were correct and you are not that cleaning the bridge patch weakens that's more than countered with a bridge slapped on top....
But again do whatever you want and I hope it works out for you.