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| Author: | James W B [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Buffing Tru-oil |
Has anyone out there buffed out tru-oil as if it were nitro? I thought I might give it a try and see if it adds a little something.If anyone has ,how long did you wait before buffing? SKIN |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
I'm doing my first neck with Tru-oil and actually was about to post the same question. In fact, exactly the same. Can you use the wheel and Menzerna? Terry |
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| Author: | James W B [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Well Terence,I guess there haven`t been many tru-oil buffers out there.I`m gonna go for it and see what happens.You never know we might only live once. James W B |
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| Author: | jhowell [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
I've done a couple Tru-Oil necks, but I haven't used a wheel on them. I've just gone up through the Micro-Mesh grades and they've turned out well. |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
I have done a couple tru-oil necks on electrics and I have hand buffed them with micromesh. If you go all the way to 12,000 and then hit it with swirl remover you can get a good gloss on it. But when you do that it feels as sticky (to me) as a normal lacquer finish. I found if you stopped around 4000 you got a decent "shine" and it still felt fast. |
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| Author: | Philip Perdue [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Tru-oil is used quite a bit on ukuleles. In fact it is quite often the only finish used. The micromesh works great to polish and level the finish. Then use lemon oil and polish up with an old t-shirt or similar. It seems to work pretty well. Philip |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
I recently did a peruvian walnut neck with Tru-oil. Buffed it on my regulsr machine using menzerna fine and super fine. It came out good. you have to watch not to burn thru and when it gets a little warm it will feel a little "sticky" as Brock mentioned, just let it re-harden for a couple days and it seemed good as gold! |
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| Author: | Daniel M [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Yeah... Like Dave said. Tru Oil buffs out beautifully. I use 14" Stew-Mac buffs & fine / extra fine Menzerna. Take care on the edges & at the peghead transition. It's pretty easy to burn through. |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
I'll second the part about being careful around edges. I just buffed through one I did a week or so ago. Fortunately it's also a pretty easy fix if you do that. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Keep the heat down with a light touch , careful around plane changes and fine and extra fine Menzerna will work with a good Canton-weave cotton wheel or softer. |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Thanks guys. How many coats did you put on your necks? I've been doing two/day and am up to 10. Figured I quit there and try rub out in a couple of weeks. Sound reasonable? Terry |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
That should be fine but is about 3 more than I typically use. but it will depend on the tru-oil formula you are using. Many have vastly different resins there for build heavier or lighter depending, |
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| Author: | K.O. [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
I have never buffed tru-oil because I like the satin look but it sounds to me that a small wheel chucked in a variable speed drill could be the way to go? |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
K.O. wrote: I have never buffed tru-oil because I like the satin look but it sounds to me that a small wheel chucked in a variable speed drill could be the way to go? Actually it is harder for me anyway to control the friction thereby the heat build up with a hand held device and small wheel That n on a 14" wheel. i think holding the guitar gives a better feel for the heat being generated than holding the buffer. But I am sure this is subjective |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Tru-oil won't buff to a high shine. It is too soft. I agree with Michael, a small wheel will build too much heat for little result, and it is much easier to handle the guitar against a large buffing wheel (12" +) than holding a hand-held buffer against the guitar. |
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| Author: | Rick Turner [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Buffing Tru-oil |
Isn't the whole point of an oil finish (well, oil varnish) to make it look like an oil finish, not a high buffed lacquer finish? If you want high gloss, then lacquer the guitar or polyester it. But if the point is to make it look like lacquer while "getting away with" a hand applied finish, well then all I can say is good luck. |
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