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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Back when I was in elementary school we used three different types of glue. Basic white paste, Elmer's white glue and a clearish amber colored glue that was in a glass bottle with a slit natural rubber applicator on top. Back then this glues was used to glue paper to paper. Often used to seal envelops as pre glued envelopes were not that common at that time and also to attach labels to boxes. Anyway what I recall that amber glue reminds me of HG/urea glue. Some what like Franklin's Liquid HG but very much lighter viscosity. What was this glue? A HG/urea blend? Does anyone know if it is still manufactured anymore? I was looking for some at a Office Depot the other day, figuring if it is still made that is where I would most likely find it locally but with no luck. The reason I want some is I found an old label buttering reservoir used to add this type of glue to paper labels . The reservoir and the buttering wheel is made of polished marble. I was thinking this would be great for makers labels |
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| Author: | Sam Price [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
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| Author: | Steve Walden [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Rubber cement? |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
WaldenWorx wrote: Rubber cement? No this is a very thin glue.
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| Author: | Guest [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
"Le Page's" Mucilage in the funny bottle with the rubber applicator tip. It's a kind of fish glue. |
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| Author: | Mitch Cain [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Mucilage? http://www.amazon.com/Ross-Mucilage-3oz-Bottle/dp/B000931O9E http://www.misterart.com/store/view.cfm?store=001&group_id=1807 http://www.pwam.org/rocketclub/education/glueguide.htm |
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| Author: | JBreault [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
I remember that stuff, but I can't remember exactly what it was. Would liquid hide glue work in your dispenser? If you are only using it for labels, I'm sure there's be no problems with it. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Mitch Cain wrote: Mucilage? http://www.amazon.com/Ross-Mucilage-3oz-Bottle/dp/B000931O9E http://www.misterart.com/store/view.cfm?store=001&group_id=1807 http://www.pwam.org/rocketclub/education/glueguide.htm Cool Mitch thats it 
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
JBreault wrote: I remember that stuff, but I can't remember exactly what it was. Would liquid hide glue work in your dispenser? If you are only using it for labels, I'm sure there's be no problems with it. Just way to high of viscosity is the only issue. |
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| Author: | Kirt Myers [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Doesn't taste as good as the white paste though. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Kirt wrote: Doesn't taste as good as the white paste though. Might have somthing to do with what I suspect the retarder is 
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| Author: | Dave Higham [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
I'd never heard of Mucilage either (but then, I'm a Brit). But I think Mario uses it for something. |
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| Author: | KenH [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
I think that even remembering this glue points to our age. I knew EXACTLY what you were talking about and have wondered if this was hide glue also. I bought some liquid hide glue from Woodmaster (made by titebond, of all people) and am intending on using some of this for a label to see how it works. I dont see why the stuff you are asking about wouldnt work also. |
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| Author: | JBreault [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
If anyone is curious what this stuff is. From the Columbia Encyclopedia: "mucilage , thick, glutinous substance, related to the natural gums, comprised usually of protein, polysaccharides, and uranides. It swells but does not dissolve in water. Mucilage is secreted by the seed covers of various plants, including marsh mallows and flaxes and certain seaweeds; it is the chief constituent of agar. In the plant it sometimes serves to check the loss of water to aid germination, to facilitate seed dispersal, and to store food. It is used in medicine as an emollient and a demulcent. Mucilage is employed also as an adhesive, and the term is extended to include other slimy adhesives, especially solutions of gum, such as tragacanth mucilage." |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
JBreault wrote: If anyone is curious what this stuff is. From the Columbia Encyclopedia: "mucilage , thick, glutinous substance, related to the natural gums, comprised usually of protein, polysaccharides, and uranides. It swells but does not dissolve in water. Mucilage is secreted by the seed covers of various plants, including marsh mallows and flaxes and certain seaweeds; it is the chief constituent of agar. In the plant it sometimes serves to check the loss of water to aid germination, to facilitate seed dispersal, and to store food. It is used in medicine as an emollient and a demulcent. Mucilage is employed also as an adhesive, and the term is extended to include other slimy adhesives, especially solutions of gum, such as tragacanth mucilage." Now that you mentioned it, I remember my grand father calling it Flax glue |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Hodges_Guitars wrote: I think that even remembering this glue points to our age. I knew EXACTLY what you were talking about and have wondered if this was hide glue also. I bought some liquid hide glue from Woodmaster (made by titebond, of all people) and am intending on using some of this for a label to see how it works. I dont see why the stuff you are asking about wouldnt work also. How about remembering when envelops were not pre glued  Now that dated me hua?
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| Author: | Colin S [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
We had that in British schools, back in the 50's, as well, LePage's, well I'm blowed! We used to call it Cow Gum. Little dumpy bottles with red angled rubber top with a slit. We used to smear it down the back of the girls hair. Wasn't childhood great. Colin |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Colin S wrote: We had that in British schools, back in the 50's, as well, LePage's, well I'm blowed! We used to call it Cow Gum. Little dumpy bottles with red angled rubber top with a slit. We used to smear it down the back of the girls hair. Wasn't childhood great. Dang Colin you guys were vicious
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Hodges_Guitars wrote: I think that even remembering this glue points to our age. I knew EXACTLY what you were talking about and have wondered if this was hide glue also. I bought some liquid hide glue from Woodmaster (made by titebond, of all people) and am intending on using some of this for a label to see how it works. I dont see why the stuff you are asking about wouldnt work also. Ken I have tried it. (By the way Franklin is Titebond) The problem is it goes on way to thick. You might try thinning it. When I used it I applied it at full strength to the back of the label the took a razor blade and drug off 90% of it. It was hard to work with out getting everywhere. |
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| Author: | grumpy [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
I bought a bottle of this stuff last fall. It's still available! It's still sold for use by little kids because it is non-toxic and considered edible. Rick mentioned that it was really nothing more than fish glue, so when I saw the bottle, I had to buy it and play around. In simple glued up maple blocks tests, it beat everything else I had, even hot hide glue. Go figure.... |
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| Author: | Mitch Cain [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
So are you using it for anything Grumpy? |
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| Author: | grumpy [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
nah, but it was fun playing with it. |
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| Author: | FishtownMike [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
I only 41 but i remember using this in grade school to. I believe they used this stuff because it was safe and non toxic. |
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| Author: | Bob Garrish [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
I'm 25 and we had it. |
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| Author: | Don A [ Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hey all you well seasoned glue-pros out there I got a questi |
Your only aging yourself if you remember it being in glass bottles.  Of course back then, so was the milk in the cafeteria........
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