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Author:  sdsollod [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:57 am ]
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I've been thinking about how to go about doing a florentine cutaway. Can you just bend the sides as you normally would, and then make a cut at the upper bout, and then reverse the cut off piece to make the cutaway?
Author:  Howard Klepper [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:10 pm ]
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Nope. The curve won't be right, and you should not reverse inside and outside.
Author:  sdsollod [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:32 pm ]
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Thanks guys - I figured it wasn't that easy... Todd - I like that jig. That looks like the way to go... [:Y:]
Author:  martinedwards [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:47 pm ]
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sdsollod wrote:
I've been thinking about how to go about doing a florentine cutaway. Can you just bend the sides as you normally would, and then make a cut at the upper bout, and then reverse the cut off piece to make the cutaway?

the first one I did, was like that, only I didn't plan it.

I broke the side and a florentine was the only rescue route!!

It was a walnut mandolin with nothing fancy about it at all
Author:  Sylvan [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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I do it like this. http://www.wellsguitars.com/Articles/Cutaway_Article.htm.
Author:  sdsollod [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:05 pm ]
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Holy Cow Sylvan! :o :shock: That takes some guts! Todd's method looks a little more civilized... I have to admit though, it looks like you pull it off. I surely do not have that much confidence at this point.
Author:  RichB [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:04 pm ]
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Rod True had posted info on 'how he did a Florentine Cutaway' a while back. Which was a marvelous job...btw [clap] ! One day I'd sure like to try & pull off something like it...lol , even though a Venetian C is more appealing to me.

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Author:  npalen [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:58 pm ]
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I'm trying to figure out the purpose of what looks to be a step in Rod's clamping caul as shown with the added arrow.
Looks like it acts as a stop for the short side but not sure why.
Would appreciate any clarification.
Thanks
Nelson
Author:  Rod True [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:43 am ]
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Nelson good question. I was wondering the same thing :lol:

Actually, there shouldn't be a step there, it should be smooth into the recess slot, I'll have to check that out. When I put the side pieces in, I make sure that they just join in the recess slot (which is a little bit big I think, might have to make a new clamping caul soon). What I'm trying to do is force the two pieces of side wood together at the point to try and make as seamless of a joint as possible as my goal with my florentines is to make them seamless without binding. If the tip does not close up all the way, I'll have to bind it, but that's ok too.

take a look at this picture, you can see the paper goes down into the recess slot as well as the squeeze out and actually if you look closely you'll see both side pieces extend down into the recess slot.

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Hope that makes sense.
Author:  npalen [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:03 am ]
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Thanks for clarifying that, Rod.
I thought I was missing something but was really just seeing too much.
Nelson
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