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Author:  Jim Kirby [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  A Romanillos moment
Waddy, I didn't see your name on any of the replies on this thread over at the Classical Guitar Forum, so I thought I'd post this link here for you just in case. This is apparently a guitar that Jose built after his retirement, during his more recent Torres explorations. Apparently bracing is after SE 80.

This is a maple guitar and made me want to go add number 5 to the year's batch of 4. If I do, I'll try the double wedge neck joint.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=VzTLBro45JY[/youtube]

guess that didn't work, but the link name is OK.

There are many more individual videos from the same performance there.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:43 pm ]
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What Classical Guitar Forum?
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:50 pm ]
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That's a nice video. I have seen it before. Do you have the Grondona CD of him playing all of the Torres guitars? It is unbelieveable. I bought the one with the book that also has the pictures of the guitars, "La Chitarra di Liuteria". Expensive, but a great package. It will light your fire for building.
Author:  Jim Kirby [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:57 pm ]
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http://www.delcamp.net

I thought I had seen you there. Not as much traffic on real luthier issues as would be good. Some familiar faces that we know and respect drop in there too.

Yes, I have the Grondona CD and the book. Very nice book.
Author:  David LaPlante [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:27 pm ]
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This was mine..........
Author:  David LaPlante [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:35 pm ]
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Jim, I just posted a correction over in the Del Camp forum, the Romanillos Torres plan is from SE 83, published on pg 120 of the Romanillos book.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:02 pm ]
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Thanks, Jim, you'll probably see me there, from time to time, but OLF is my first home now. Cool picture. Chin scratching thoughtfulness! :D
Author:  Colin S [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:29 am ]
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jtkirby wrote:
This is a maple guitar and made me want to go add number 5 to the year's batch of 4. If I do, I'll try the double wedge neck joint.



I recently used the Romanillos double wedge, it is an elegant system. You can ensure a tight fit of the sides to the neck, I used a 10mm slot (perfect fit for a 10mm chisel). When finally fitting the sides with the wedges just add glue to the sufaces of the wedges that will contact the heel, leaving the sides held just by the interference fit. Then if they ever need to be removed for any reason the wedges are easy to chisel out without affecting the sides.

Attachment:
Wedge trial fit 2.JPG


Colin
Author:  douglas ingram [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:49 am ]
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It was corrected in that thread that the guitar in the video is, in fact, a standard Romanillos guitar.

I recently discovered that forum and find it very interesting. Mostly due to the worldwide participation and the fact that I can find out more about what's on the players mind, not just the builders. I highly recommend it.
Author:  Robbie O'Brien [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:57 am ]
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I recently found that forum by way of a client. Apparently this person had posted on that forum, which is hosted in France I believe, asking for recommendations for classical guitars. Someone in Europe recommended O'Brien classicals and the guitar should arrive today. I still don't know who it was but a thank you is certainly in order.
Author:  MaxBishop [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:59 am ]
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Friends, I have a related question:

The "book" that is referred to in the above posts - is that the Romanillos' book on Antonio de Torres or is it his new/forthcoming book on guitar building. If it is the latter I would welcome any information as to where it is available, publisher, cost, etc.

Many thanks,
Max
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:21 am ]
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If you are talking about the book with the CD, here is the link. It ain't cheap! "La Chitarra di Liuteria - Masterpieces of Guitar Making" It comes with a CD of Grondona playing many of the historical guitars in the book. It is a very nice package, and worth the purchace price.
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:33 am ]
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By all means see Grondona's other videos too, uploaded buy the same user "onosk". Onosk seems to know an awful lot about Torres and what guitars Grondonas uses so he might be Grondona himself.
These other vids are made on FE 23, 1867 - I think, Im not sure thats the one. I think it belongs to a german luthier whosnameiforgot.
The guitar is dark must be Braz.
Albeniz, Oriental:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=czQVOcgkCwY[/youtube]

And this is SE 107, cypress, 1887. Mendelssohn: Song Without Words. There are 2 other vids but I love this one most.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RM5FWDBrBB8[/youtube]

Grondona is also notable for recording a CD dedicated to Julian Arcas on La Leona. Legend has that la Leona was used by Arcas at some point.
For those of you who don't know Arcas, he was Tarrega's teacher, showed him a few licks :P His music is almost forgotten these days, unfortunately. It is less refined/romanticized and closer to simple folk flamenco.

Stefano Grondona plays J. Arcas: Fantasia sobre "El Paño"
Author:  David LaPlante [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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The book I referred to is the forthcoming Romanillos book on guitar making. As far as I know, it is not out yet but should be within the year.
Once out it should be commonly available.
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