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| Author: | Michael Jin [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Ok, so I got an Ibanez bass that belonged to a friend. She bought herself a better bass and she doesn't use it anymore so I decided to pull it apart. The thing's a bit beat up, but whatever... it happens, right? Tell me if you guys notice something strange here... Or maybe it's completely normal and I'm the only one that can't seem to explain this. Can anyone explain this to me? 
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| Author: | Anthony Lembo [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
It looks like a hole to the control cavity. It's used to attach a ground wire to the bridge. Anthony |
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| Author: | Michael Jin [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
so there IS an explanation for it..  still looks really really messy... 
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| Author: | Ziegenfuss [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Yeah - you should see that in every electric guitar/bass. Commonly, they are drilled before finish, so they don't look that clooged, but they are always there. Stephen |
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| Author: | martinedwards [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
all normal. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Looks like it they finish the body then drilled the access for the ground wire and had a bit of chip out during the drilling. Knowing it would be covered by the bridge housing the let it go. This kind of thing is common in the factory products. If it does not affect the apperance after assembly or functionality of the instrument then it is not a flaw in the eyes of the floor QC inspector. You will see this kind of thing even on some very high end factory builds |
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| Author: | JBreault [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Since it is covered by the bridge, doesn't affect playability or tone...I wouldn't consider it a flaw either. |
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| Author: | Michael Jin [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
JBreault wrote: Since it is covered by the bridge, doesn't affect playability or tone...I wouldn't consider it a flaw either. Well, playability, I would agree with, but tone is something I was curious about in that sense. How much of a real impact does the wood or structure of the body or neck have on the tone of an electric guitar? I've always wondered... On an acoustic guitar, it's obvious that the wood and structure would have a huge impact simply because they are really the primary things that would define a guitar's tone. On an electric, however, you run into the fact that you have other variables such as pickups, amps, and even cables. How much does the quality or type of wood really matter on an electric? For myself, I've always been under the impression that it was the electronic factors that determined sound and that all of that talk about bodies being made of AAAA maple vs. AA maple was just a selling point for manufacturers. (This would probably deserve its own topic..) |
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| Author: | Rich Schnee [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
I regards to electrics it’s all about sustain. Some woods sustain better than others. I have heard several people talk about hand selecting maple tone wood for use on there solid body. They have said it has a “Great Tap tone”, and then they glue it to a slab of mahogany that also has a “Great Tap tone”. Have you ever picked up a 1 ½ x 15” x 22” piece of wood, found a node and taped on it??? I say it’s all Hogwash but the wood that is used for a solid body electric does have an effect on the sound but more importantly sustain, which what an electric guitarist is looking for. Maybe instead of Tap Tone they should say Tap Sustain??? |
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| Author: | Michael Jin [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Rich S wrote: I regards to electrics it’s all about sustain. Some woods sustain better than others. I have heard several people talk about hand selecting maple tone wood for use on there solid body. They have said it has a “Great Tap tone”, and then they glue it to a slab of mahogany that also has a “Great Tap tone”. Have you ever picked up a 1 ½ x 15” x 22” piece of wood, found a node and taped on it??? I say it’s all Hogwash but the wood that is used for a solid body electric does have an effect on the sound but more importantly sustain, which what an electric guitarist is looking for. Maybe instead of Tap Tone they should say Tap Sustain??? I learn something new everyday... I always thought sustain was mostly about fretwork.
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| Author: | Rich Schnee [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Don’t get me wrong, Frets, Bridge and pickups, play a huge roll in sustain…all I am saying is that wood tone is secondary to sustain. I think you can have a lousy wood tone with great sustain and have people rave about how great a tone it has. I forgot to mention New Strings!!! |
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| Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
I can assure you that THAT hole was not drilled in the Ibanez factory, but was more likely boogered up by an unskilled repair person after the fact. The original hole was most likely closer to a 1/16" hole. Someone who couldn't fish that bridge ground wire back through it probably bored it out to get the wire from the bridge to the ground loop. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
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| Author: | Billy T [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ibanez Bass - Is this normal? |
Michael, I'm glad I caught this thread! That is not a ground feed hole.... it's termites!!!! Ibanez's are known for real problems with bugs! Spray some WD40 in there and that will take care of them right quick!  
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