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Author:  Dave White [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:45 am ]
Post subject:  Orpharion Plan
Perusing the MIMF sent me to the Renaissance Cittern Site and this page on the Orpharion built by in London by Francis Palmer in 1617, and held in the Collection of Musikmuseet, Musikhistorisk Museum & Carl Claudius’ Samling, Copenhagen, Denmark. This is an interesting instrument as it is a very early example of a fan-fretted instrument with a bass string length of 601.5mm and a treble string length of 518.5mm:

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Even more interestimg is that a technical drawing and a report on the condition of the Palmer orpharion by Darryl Martin are available for free as PDF downloads, courtesy of the Musikhistorisk Museum of Copenhagen, Denmark. There are also links on the site to articles about the instrument and it's construction.

This is a very cool and interesting instrument that yet again demonstrates that there is little in modern "innovation" that is truly new. Maybe we should have an OLF Orpharion Making Competition.
Author:  Colin S [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Orpharion Plan
I hope they paid Novax his license fee! Nothing is new is it Dave, virtually all of the 'modern' developments in instruments can be found in one form or another in museum specimens. Robert Smith at Timberline, made a really nice Orpharion back in the 70s I believe. This might be a logical instrument for me to have a go at.

Colin
Author:  Billy T [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Orpharion Plan
Colin S wrote:
I hope they paid Novax his license fee!
Colin


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They'd need a time machine to collect on that one!

Wow! What a great TV show "Time Attorneys"!! Ambulance Chasers through history! :D
Author:  John Kinnaird [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Orpharion Plan
Dave are all opharions fan fretted, as far as you know? Count me in on the contest if I can do straight frets. That fan thing intimidates me.

John
Author:  Colin S [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Orpharion Plan
John Kinnaird wrote:
Dave are all opharions fan fretted, as far as you know? Count me in on the contest if I can do straight frets. That fan thing intimidates me.

John



John, I've only seen half a dozen or so and I did do a minor repair on one, but yes every orpharion I've ever seen is fan fretted.

Colin
Author:  Dave White [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Orpharion Plan
John,

It's not that hard to do. It's actually harder to describe in words. Basically the string length down the middle of the fretboard is the average of the outer strings - in this case 560mm. You then work out which fret needs to be perpendicular like "normal" frets - this looks to be the 4th fret. You then work out the fretboard width, taper and the edge relationship to the outer strings and draw in the 4th fret perpendicular to the centre line of the fretboard and measure forward along the centre line 115.52mm (4th fret position on 560mm scale length) and mark this pont as the nut edge on the centre line, and then mark out all of the fret positions along the centre line for a 560mm scale. Then draw in the outer strings along the fretboard. Measure from where the 4th fret crosses the bass string, along the bass string line 124.08mm (4th fret position on the 601.5mm scale length) towards the nut and mark this as the bass string nut edge. Do the same on the treble string measuring 106.96mm (4th fret position on the 518.5mm scale length) and this gives you the treble string nut edge. Now using the 4th fret as a reference you mark out the fret positions along the two outer strings. Join up the dots (and marvel at how they meet the dots you marked along the centre-line) and you have the fretboard marked out for cutting the fret slots.
Author:  TonyKarol [ Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Orpharion Plan
Nice description Dave of how to recreate the multiscale fretboard (Fan%$#T is a reg copyright of Novax, thats why i dont use it). Nice to know the idea is 400 years old ....Anyway ... here is a much simpler way.

Go here, http://www.fretfind.ekips.org/2d/index.php , and fill 'er out, then print and line up the pages ... I do them as lefty FBs, then glue to the back of the FB blank and proceed to cut on the table saw .... Thanks to Rollo Scheurenbrand for enlightening me on this site ... saves a couple hours of layout time. Its as accurate as I can do by hand as well.
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