Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Tue Nov 26, 2024 2:00 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:49 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:24 am
Posts: 41
Location: SE Michigan
After WAY too much time in the shop, my mandolins are finally complete. Photos of the one I'm keeping are below. The twin to this one was a commission, and was delivered to its new home in Northern Michigan last weekend.

The body shape is taken from the Bob Benedetto blueprint; the cutaway was redrawn to be a little less deep. Scale length is 13-7/8. They're 'tone bar' braced like an F5. The body size was reduced so the distance between the neck joint and the bridge is 6-15/16", and the neck joins at the 12th fret. If my memory is correct, the reduction was around 64%. F-hole design was adapted from a picture of a guitar built by the late John Zeidler. Peghead shape was 'borrowed' from a mid-30's Epiphone Broadway.

The top is Englemann Spruce, maple everywhere else, with lightly-figured ebony on both sides of the peghead, the finger rest, and the armrest (which was removed for the photos). There is a McIntyre Acoustic Feather under the bridge; the bridge itself is from Cumberland Acoustics. Finish is Target's Oxford Ultima USL. I sealed with two coats of shellac, followed by a couple coats of USL containing TransTint dyes, followed by clear coats.

The 'concept' for this project came about when I chickened out on a bigger project. I'm a guitar player mostly, and have built a few guitars. It's been a life-long dream to build an archtop guitar. Then I found out how much a good set of guitar-sized curly maple backs/sides cost, and decided to build something smaller (i.e. CHEAPER) as a first carving project. These mandolins were built almost entirely using the methods in Benedetto's archtop guitar book. Before cutting into the good woods, I built a prototype out of Home Depot woods - cedar siding for the top, poplar back, maple sides and neck, hobby shop walnut for headstock veneer. Stupid thing came out sounding pretty good for a quick, down and dirty project. There are pictures and clips from that on the site listed in my sig.

What I discovered on this project is that if you don't work on something for 4-1/2 years or so, it takes a LONG time to get it done! I told my friend who bought the other mandolin "When I've got a 9-year wait list, you can say you only waited 5 years for yours!"

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

_________________
Rick Jones
Rochester Hills, MI
http://home.comcast.net/~rajones19


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:58 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:04 am
Posts: 2060
Very cool Rick. Brian told be about those, and I hope to see the one you kept one of these days. He said you were heading up north with the commissioned one on the weekend we had the Michigan Guild of Luthiers meeting, but I hope you can make it out to another (whenever that may be).

_________________
Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:03 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:06 pm
Posts: 170
Location: United States
Rick,
Absolutely stunning, in both design and craftsmanship.
Way to go!

Tom

_________________
http://www.moriciguitar.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:08 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:24 am
Posts: 41
Location: SE Michigan
Thanks for the kind words!

David - I'll no doubt be over in A2 sometime in the next few weeks to see Brian; I'll get in touch beforehand, see if you'll be around. I was sorry to miss the get-together, and definitely want to make it to the next one.

_________________
Rick Jones
Rochester Hills, MI
http://home.comcast.net/~rajones19


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:08 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:15 pm
Posts: 2302
Location: Florida
I *REALLY* like this one!

Well done Rick!

_________________
Reguards,

Ken H


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:52 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:13 pm
Posts: 228
Location: Newtown, CT
Wow Rick, I like it and it looks gorgeous. Now I have another project to add to the list of things to do.

_________________
Rich S

"The inconvenience of poor quality will linger long after the thrill of a bargain has been forgotten"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:05 pm 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13387
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Rick this is a stunning instrument and I love it!!! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]

I am sorry that you had to miss the A2 gathering but when you are planning on being in town please let me know too so we can get together. I think that David could probably stand me being around again too but just be careful if you do any recording at his shop - he has an annoying habit of pounding on the bridge of a guitar while the artist is laying down a track.......... :D


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:38 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:40 pm
Posts: 763
Location: United States
A series of power outages spaced exactly the amount of time needed to reboot, load Firefox and type 85% of a message continue to thwart this post.

Here's the short version.

Wow! That's awesome. Now I've got to rush through a few more guitars so I can try that too.

Miek

_________________
Mike Lindstrom


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:41 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:51 am
Posts: 2148
Location: San Diego, CA
First name: Andy
Last Name: Zimmerman
City: San Diego
State: CA
Zip/Postal Code: 92103
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Absolutely STUNNING!!!! One of the best mandolins I have ever seen. Fantastic detail!!!!
I am attempting my first mandolin now and I am appreciating how difficult they are. MUCH harder than a guitar.

Beautiful!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!

_________________
Andy Z.
http://www.lazydogguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:24 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:45 am
Posts: 17
Location: Midway, GA
Awesome ... I love Benedetto's designs, though I may be slightly biased since they're the only "big" name manufacturer in my area. Well done, sir.

_________________
"All women are crazy. The trick is finding one with a particular brand of crazy that you can tolerate on a daily basis."
-Sherman


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:25 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:24 am
Posts: 41
Location: SE Michigan
azimmer1 wrote:
...... I am appreciating how difficult they are. MUCH harder than a guitar.

Andy - Wow, you said it. As I said in my post, I started this project because I didn't want to chance screwing up $300 worth of guitar woods. Last spring I had occasion to spend a few hours with Mike Kemnitzer, builder of world-renowned Nugget mandolins, and I told him that story. He laughed and said "And, are you sorry now?". Boy, he said it. I had no idea how exacting, how fussy they are. Details that would be invisible on a guitar appear HUGE on a mandolin. They can be rather addicting for the same reason. You get absolutely lost in the most minute little tasks; agonizing becomes something of an art form.

Thanks to everybody for the kind words. Hesh, next time I'm over that way, I'll give a shout. I'd really like to make it to one of the lunches or whatever - I'd like to meet everybody. Lance and I corresponded years ago; he stumbled across my web site when he was building his first guitar. Would be nice to actually shake hands with all you folks!

_________________
Rick Jones
Rochester Hills, MI
http://home.comcast.net/~rajones19


Last edited by rajones19 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:37 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 9191
Location: United States
First name: Waddy
Last Name: Thomson
City: Charlotte
State: NC
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Rick, that is just way cool! Great job! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]

_________________
Waddy

Photobucket Build Album Library

Sound Clips of most of my guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:32 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:40 am
Posts: 1900
Location: Spokane, Washington
First name: Pat
Last Name: Foster
State: Eastern WA
Focus: Build
Rick,

a delight to behold!

_________________
now known around here as Pat Foster
_________________
http://www.patfosterguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:17 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:04 am
Posts: 2060
Hesh wrote:
he has an annoying habit of pounding on the bridge of a guitar while the artist is laying down a track.......... :D


I really thought that "rhythm track" was my only good contribution to the recordings of the day. idunno :mrgreen:

That 00 just makes for a great kickboard tone. :D (we need an emoticon for the little "pa-dum pum, tsshhh" drum fill)

_________________
Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:36 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:55 am
Posts: 1505
Location: Lorette, Manitoba, Canada
Beautiful! Almost makes me want to build a mandolin beehive Like I need MORE projects...

You are definitely ready to build that guitar.

_________________
Expectation is the source of all misery; comparison the thief of joy.
http://redrivercanoe.ca/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:50 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:58 am
Posts: 1667
Sweet!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:03 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:02 am
Posts: 8551
Location: United States
First name: Lance
Last Name: Kragenbrink
City: Vandercook Lake
State: Michigan
Zip/Postal Code: 49203
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Looks great Rick! I Second Davids comments, I sure hope you can bring one to a MGL meet one day! [:Y:]

_________________
Support the OLF! Bookmark our STEWMAC link Today!
Lance@LuthiersForum.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:47 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:16 am
Posts: 174
Location: United Kingdom
wow, that really is a beauty - and i thought the prototype was nice! (has that fully imploded yet by the way Rick?)

I've been talking about your work with a few friends, i think they'll be dumbstruck like me when they see 'em!

very well done, thats really impressive...wow
steve

_________________
www.theguitarrepairworkshop.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:59 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:35 am
Posts: 211
Very nice!

How does the tone differ from a more ordinary F-5 mandolin, or does it.

John


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:07 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:58 pm
Posts: 2946
Location: United States
Real Nice!!!!

_________________
Billy Dean Thomas
Covina, CA

"Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur."
(Many fear their reputation, few their conscience)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:28 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:47 am
Posts: 781
Location: Wauwatosa, WI, USA
grumpy wrote:
Sweet!


My work(s) exactly. [:Y:]


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:30 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:47 am
Posts: 781
Location: Wauwatosa, WI, USA
Is there a reason mando fretboards sit so high off the body?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:43 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:29 am
Posts: 960
Location: Northern Ireland
First name: Martin
Last Name: Edwards
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
zehley wrote:
Is there a reason mando fretboards sit so high off the body?


break angle at the bridge I guess......


Rick, that mando is STUNNING,

I LOVE it,

Beautiful work, well done!!!!!

_________________
My soundclick xx luthier blog xx luthier soundclick


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:55 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:29 am
Posts: 3840
Location: England
Now that's a mandolin I would love to try, it looks amazing! Well worth the wait I'd say.

Colin

_________________
I don't believe in anything, I simply make use of a set of reasonable working hypotheses.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:03 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:10 am
Posts: 606
Location: United States
Wow! That is a beautiful instrument, looks absolutely flawless.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 52 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com