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Author:  Gary L [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Cedar and cocobolo classical with soundbite
I recently had the opportunity to have a recording made with this guitar before sending it to its new owner. The performance and recording is by Seth Himmelhoch.

Registro (Preludio) by Antonio Lauro

This guitar has a western red cedar top, cocobolo back and sides, and ebony bindings. At the request of the new owner, I fitted the guitar with an ebony armrest to keep his forearm off the soundboard. The fingerboard is elevated, the head is V-grafted, and the tuning machines are Alessi.

Thanks for looking and listening.
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O Cedar and cocobolo front.jpg

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O Cocobolo back and sides with ebony bindings.jpg

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O Cedar_ cocbolo and ebony.jpg

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O Ebony end graft and bindings_ cocobolo back and sides.jpg

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O V-grafted head with cocobolo back plate.jpg

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O Ready to close box.jpg
Author:  Doug-Guitar-Buckler [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:59 pm ]
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Nicely done! I like the cocobolo/ebony look.
Author:  Peter J [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:10 pm ]
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Beautiful work Gary [clap] [clap] [clap] There isn't anything not to like about this instrument. It has all of the good stuff; wonderful woods, great features, beautiful workmanship, Alessi tuners..... WOW.... just great.

Any opinions about the inclusion of the armrest? I've been tempted to include one on my next build but have been hesitant due to the issue of reducing the overall vibrating area... and possibly affecting the tone and/or sonority.


Regards,
Peter
Author:  douglas ingram [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:40 pm ]
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Nice job! The world can always use more good classical guitars (already has enough Drednoughts beehive )


Is this armrest a bevel or actually a rest to projects over the soundboard?

I want to do a projecting one, but am wrestling with deciding on which attachment method I prefer.
Author:  Ken Franklin [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:11 pm ]
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Beautiful guitar in every way. Sweet trebles on the sound clip! Keep them coming.
Author:  Gary L [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:17 pm ]
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My armrest design uses ebony bent in a side bender. When installed, the lower portion takes the place of the binding by incorporating it into a 45 degree bevel cut into the side, lining, and top. The armrest is pinned during gluing and trimmed to look just like the binding. I use stiff, solid linings so the foundation is very secure. The arch gives the structure strength.

The new owner likes the comfort of the bevel. While playing it myself, I don't think it either adds to or detracts from the sound.
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O 45 degree bevel routed into side and linings.jpg

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O Gluing armrest with pins.jpg

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O Finished arm rest.jpg
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:54 pm ]
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Excellent recording quality. Would you please share the setup?
Author:  John Kinnaird jr [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:05 pm ]
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Beautiful guitar. That arm rest hanging over the top is clever. I bet it was a bear to finish underneath the overhang.
John
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:18 pm ]
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Mighty fine looking classical. Nice playing and recording too. Thanks! [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:28 pm ]
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Now that's elegance.

Thanks for posting.

Steve
Author:  Frei [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:15 pm ]
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Do you have an MP3, can you upload it without realplayer?
Author:  Gary L [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:53 am ]
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Thanks to everyone for the extremely kind words.
Alex: Since I didn't do the recording, I don't know the details of the set up. I will find out and let you know.
John: Finishing under the armrest was not a problem because I thought ahead and French polished that area with shellac before gluing.
Author:  Colin S [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:17 pm ]
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Gary, lovely looking and sounding guitar.

Colin
Author:  LanceK [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:09 pm ]
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Very nice Gary! [clap]
Author:  Ricardo [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:37 pm ]
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Leaves me breathless - awesome work! bliss bliss
Author:  Marc [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:17 pm ]
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Gary, Wow! nice classical, very impressive. I really enjoyed the sound clip.
Author:  Todd Rose [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:57 pm ]
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Gorgeous, Gary. Your work is an inspiration to me. I love the armrest. This is probably asking the obvious: you put a veneer on it after gluing it on with the pins?

I'm on dial-up, but as soon as I get a chance to get online with a high speed connection, I'll give the sound clip a listen. I can hardly wait.

Thanks for posting!
Author:  Hesh [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:25 am ]
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Gary this guitar was a real pleasure to listen to and to look at - very nicely done! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Author:  Jim Kirby [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:10 am ]
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Gary - Your guitars never cease to amaze me. You're one of my OLF heroes!

I had the same question as Todd Rose - where do the nasty pin holes in the armrest go?
Author:  Robbie O'Brien [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:04 am ]
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Stunning guitar and beautiful recording! [clap]
Author:  Terence Kennedy [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:05 am ]
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I'm blown away. Very classy.
Terry
Author:  Ken Franklin [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:24 am ]
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Gary, what glue are you using to attach your armrest?
Author:  Dave Anderson [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:36 am ]
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Gary, Just an outstanding guitar. WoW ! Very impressive indeed.
It sounds Great and looks so beautiful! Great job [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Author:  David LaPlante [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:49 am ]
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First class work Gary.
Author:  gozierdt [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:57 am ]
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Gary,

Beautiful, clean work, great woods, and the best armrest design I think I've seen.
I also really like the way you integrated the back strip, bindings, and end graft.
I haven't seen that before, and like it a lot. [:Y:] [:Y:] [:Y:]
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