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Author:  davidO [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
With Honduran Mahogany on CITES now, I was looking for a canadian source for neck blanks.
Anyone?
Shane do you know? I don't see it on your web site.

Davido
Author:  Rod True [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
David most of the main hardwood suppliers still have and can get Hondo Mahogany, but I'll be switching to Sapele when I'm all out. It's less expensive and will do just as fine of a job. Look for Sapele and you'll save not only some $$ but maybe 1/10000th of a tree :D
Author:  grumpy [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Ditto on Sapele. But, that said, pretty well everyone still has mahogany on hand. Stock up while you can...
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Hey David,

I do have Mahogany usually. I only have a couple of necks worth left right now as well I think...I would need to look! I hunt it down from the wholesale lumber suppliers. But if you have a Windsor Plywood in your area they will typically bring it on their next shipment for you. My understanding of the CITIES rule is that a country can purchase Honduran from the country of origin but once it is imported that country is not permitted to export any of the wood or products made from the wood to another country. Makes it kind of hard on the musical instrument industry, as with Brazilian. I don't think the intent was to nuc the guitar building community we just get caught in the shrapnel.

I will probably stock up on more Mahogany this fall. I have just purchased a bunch of spruce logs and a bunch of maple so I need to get the cash flow happening again before I extend too much further. But I do have a neck or two I think. Mario and Rod's suggestion to use sapele is good as well although a shift to another species just shifts the problem in my opinion! With carbon fibre inlayed into a neck there are a few good domestic options as well, cherry, walnut, maple (eastern and western) and birch has been used as well.

Good Luck David!

Shane
Author:  Mattia Valente [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Unless they reclassified it again, Mahogany requires paperwork to cross borders in board form, but finished products aren't a problem. ie, you can take your mahogany necked guitars wherever you darn well please. For now.

Me, I'm not taking chances, so I'm carefully keeping all the receipts when I buy myself some wood.
Author:  Guest [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
David, not sure where you are located in Canada. A&M Woods in Cambridge typically has the mahogany you are looking for. They will cut to size and ship.
Author:  KenH [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
There is a wood dealer on eBay that sells hondo mahog in bulk. In most cases, this is thick and wide boards. His prices arent that bad but Ihavent had the chance to actually see the lumber up close and personal to see it's quality. It may be full of pin knots and worm holes. He has other woods as well, in bulk.

eBay Store listings I have been tempted to jump on some of these deals but it is a lot of money to get extended on.
Author:  davidO [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
I don't really want to buy a hole bunch of mahogany. I am just looking for a neck blank right now as I am approaching the neck part of my first build.
Shane I will email you when I am ready to order and see if you have any at that time ( I'll be ordering a couple other things as well)

Thanks
Davido
Author:  grumpy [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Of all the woods in an instrument, the neck blank is the one I want to have on hand the longest before using it. Years. You WANT this one to be the most stable, the most acclimated, single-piece-of-wood you own.

Buy the dang thing today, not the day before you need it.
Author:  charliewood [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
DavidO
It would be helpful to know what province you are in - I know a couple places to get mahog in BC - from there its pretty easy to amke your own neck blanks...
Im sure others know where to get mahog in other provinces.
Cheers
Charlie
Author:  Rick Hubka [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
I bought Honduran Mahogany 3" x 4" x 30" (2 necks each) from Ed at:
http://www.acousticwoods.ca
His web site is being rebuilt right now but you can email him at
ed@acousticwoods.ca
or phone him at 250 723-2290

I try to buy all my wood in Canada to avoid crazy duty and shipping.

My favorite wood supplier in Canada of course is Shane.
Author:  davidO [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Ya Rich I am trying to do the same, those private courier "brokerage fees" are rediculous. I bought a small tool from LMI cost me $55. It was $ 25 to ship it. Seemed kind of high but I needed it so I bucked up the $80 for the $55 tool. When It arrived the courrier charged me another $45 in "brokerage fees" before they would release it. There were no duties or taxes due so there was nothing to "broker" they just pocketed the money for nothing. So I payed $125 for a $55 tool. They certainly made me feel "broker". gaah

Anyway, I am trying to buy what I can from someone up here so I don't have to deal with the unsurity of the border, whether it be extra fees or holding wood at the border cause it is on CITIEs.

Shane seems to have a pretty good list of offerings and his prices are very realistic, in line with other american suppliers, so I will buy what I can from him.

Thanks for the link to accoustic woods as well, it's alwys good to have a few sources

Charlie, I am in Vancouver BC I thought my ID said it, but it looks like I need to update my profile

Grumpy, as this is my first guitar, I am not expecting too much from it except to learn how to avoid mistakes, oh there are a few, and to get through it so I can start my 2nd, hopefully better one.

David O
Author:  grumpy [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
and to get through it so I can start my 2nd, hopefully better one.

In that case, buy 3 neck blanks today. Or 4. Sooner is better... trust me.
Author:  Rod True [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
David, shoot me a PM if you want to come out to Abbotsford. I can trade you a neck blank for a case of beer :D

And it's been in my shop for 3+ years now.
Author:  davidO [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Point taken Grumpy

I need necks bliss I need necks

Thanks Rod I will PM you
Author:  Shane Neifer [ Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Canadian source for Honduran Mahogany necks
Rod True wrote:
David, shoot me a PM if you want to come out to Abbotsford. I can trade you a neck blank for a case of beer :D

And it's been in my shop for 3+ years now.


Now THERE'S a deal for ya! Just cause his Christmas Carols are horrible doesn't mean that he's a bad guy that Rod!

Shane
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