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Author:  Mike OMelia [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Shaping the Braces
I was wondering what any of you thought about shaping the braces using a dremel with the right angle attachment (mini drum sander).

Mike
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Shaping as in Scalloping? If so I do not like the idea at all. you can let it get away from you way too quick. I scallop as means of top tuning. I want to do as little as is needed. This requires taking a little at a time. Plus the sanding drum tears at the fiber a good sharp chisel cuts it clean.
Author:  Chansen [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
I dunno, it didn't sound like a bad idea to me. With a little control it might work. Besides I've seen more abrasive tools being used on the forum. If you go this route though you might want to step it down to a 12" or 14" bar for doing braces.
Author:  Rod True [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
More sawdust [xx(]
Author:  Howard Klepper [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Bad idea. What's wrong with chisels and planes? It's not like this is strenuous or time consuming.
Author:  Hesh [ Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Yep bad idea and it's very difficult, at least for me, to get consistent results with something as aggressive as a Dremel sanding drum.

I would guess that 90% of my brace shaping is down with finger planes.
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Bunch of dinosours. laughing6-hehe

Mike (point taken)
Author:  Hesh [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
slackkey_mike wrote:
Bunch of dinosours. laughing6-hehe



That's old news......... :D

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I just carve my braces in the matching radius dish, the 80 grit paper holds everything in place nicely.
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Todd, Hesh, could you post some pics of the tools?

Mike
Author:  Hesh [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Sure Mike buddy.

I probably use fewer tools then some folks but it works for me.

The finger planes you see below do the majority of my shaping. The 18mm LMI chisel is my favorite and the only one I use these days for carving braces.

The green plane has been replaced by a LN model makers plane that I like better but the green plane is a very nice tool too.

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Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
That LN Model Makers plane does not look like what I can find for sale. Do you have the model number?

Also, model numbers for the finger planes.

Thanks!

Mike
Author:  Hesh [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Mike the LN model makers plane is not in my pics because I just bought it after the last build was done.

The finger planes are the 12 and 18mm Ibex planes.

Here is a pic of the LN MM plane.
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
OK, thanks! [:Y:]

Thats the model maker plane. You use that for "big shaping"?

What is that other plane in your pics? It looks like one of the LN models.

Mike
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
The only Ibex I see at LMI is a 10mm.

Mike
Author:  Lillian F-W [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Pilgramsprojects on Ebay has all the sizes.

Arnt posted a tutorial on tuning up these little planes. From looking at mine, all I needed to do was to clean up the cap a bit. I haven't done much with them yet, so far I really like it.
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
OK, Todd, that looks pretty cool. Don't spose you have oodles of unused time laying around to draw that up?

Mike
Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shaping the Braces
Well, I did not have all the greatest tools, but I did make do. Got most of the scalloping done...sanding looks good. Give it a night to rest, review, shape a bit more and finish sand. Will try to post a pic Monday night.

Will say this, I must have got it close, cause when I dangle it by the sound hole and tap it, it rings.

Mike
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