Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sun Dec 01, 2024 6:52 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:25 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:01 am
Posts: 1399
Location: Houston, TX
First name: Chuck
Last Name: Hutchison
City: Houston
State: Texas
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Some folks say that the Scott Antes plans from LMI are braced too top heavy. What in particular would you change? I'm building a D-28 style and at the point where I'm going to cut the brace wood in the next couple days. I'm not going to put the popsicle brace in but instead install a brace that wedges in tightly between the neckblock and soundhole, something in the order that Bryan Kimsey advises. What's your opinion?

_________________
"After forty-nine years of violin building, I have decided that the search for a varnish is similar to the fox hunt. The fun is in the hunt."
Jack Batts Maker and Repairer of Fine Violins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:51 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:58 am
Posts: 1667
The entire pattern is wrong. Toss it, and get yee the StewMac herringbone blueprint or the Martin dread print(same exact print)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:11 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:01 am
Posts: 1399
Location: Houston, TX
First name: Chuck
Last Name: Hutchison
City: Houston
State: Texas
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Thanks Grump,
I'll do just that. preciate it

_________________
"After forty-nine years of violin building, I have decided that the search for a varnish is similar to the fox hunt. The fun is in the hunt."
Jack Batts Maker and Repairer of Fine Violins


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:50 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:48 pm
Posts: 344
Location: Tennessee
grumpy wrote:
The entire pattern is wrong. Toss it, and get yee the StewMac herringbone blueprint or the Martin dread print(same exact print)


Whats wrong about it? That the plan I got wow7-eyes

_________________
Jeremy Douglas


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:34 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:21 am
Posts: 4905
Location: Central PA
First name: john
Last Name: hall
City: Hegins
State: pa
Zip/Postal Code: 17938
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
Antes plan isn't even close . The bracing is not correct and way too heavy. Martin bracing is 5/16 and the height is wrong also. Even the stew mac is off but it is closer than the antes. The martin print is also the same as the stewmac but with their name in the title block.
Note that unless a print is marked "SCALE" the drawing is representational. Go by the numbers and not what you see. The print may infact be correct but don't count on it. Also if the print appears to be a copy , paper stretches so again don't trust your eyes , trust the numbers.
john hall
blues creek guitars.

_________________
John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:44 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:48 pm
Posts: 344
Location: Tennessee
Oh, I was going to use prewar brace dimensions anyway.

I measured my plans to make sure they were to scale and they measured ok. I couldn't think of any other way to build the external mold.

_________________
Jeremy Douglas


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:03 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:16 pm
Posts: 718
What are the prewar brace dimensions? Are they listed on a Martin site? Im doing a dred(s) to the Stewi mac plans. Got em from LMI, but they say Stewi Mac!

_________________
Here is what a Parlor Guitar is for!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEa8PkjO6_I


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:03 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:48 pm
Posts: 344
Location: Tennessee
Frei wrote:
What are the prewar brace dimensions? Are they listed on a Martin site? Im doing a dred(s) to the Stewi mac plans. Got em from LMI, but they say Stewi Mac!


There's not actually specific dimensions. The X brace was about 5/16 x 5/8.

I was refering more to the pattern than the size though.
here's a link about 'forward shifted bracing'
http://www.stewmac.com/tradesecrets/ts0 ... clk=191731

_________________
Jeremy Douglas


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 46 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com