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Author:  SkyHigh [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Pine and Mold questions

Hi Guys and Gals(do we have any gal members?)!

couple questions

-I read many say not to use pine to sticker wood. Can pine color other woods? Has anyone actually experience pine having a negetive effect on other woods when using it to sticker?

-Let's say you have mold on set of mahogany. Can I get rid of mold by sanding it only? or do i need to use some sort of solution to kill it? Or can I no longer use this set?

Thanks, David

Author:  JJ Donohue [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

I've been using pine for years...I occasionally see a "shadow' on dark wood that sands out. In general, no problems.

Author:  TonyKarol [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

When I sticker stuff .. I use maple cut up from hardwood flooring waste - kiln dried. Its also what I use when baking tops. I have seen lots of pine/fir or whatever used by sawyers when stickering, mainly because its cheap and plentiful. But for luthier grade stuff, I would shy away in case of pitch pockets oozing ...

Author:  DYeager [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

Don't sticker with green wood. Ply, ripped to square, is a good choice.

Dan

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

It seems to me that if you have mold on a set of wood, you have another problem which stickering won't help much until you solve, i.e., moisture. You don't get much mold in a 45* relative humidity environment. I don't know if a mild bleach solution would hurt the wood or not. If not exposed to light, it might not be a problem, and it would kill the mold, but you would have to be storing it in a dry environment.

Author:  SkyHigh [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

WaddyT wrote:
It seems to me that if you have mold on a set of wood, you have another problem which stickering won't help much until you solve, i.e., moisture. You don't get much mold in a 45* relative humidity environment. I don't know if a mild bleach solution would hurt the wood or not. If not exposed to light, it might not be a problem, and it would kill the mold, but you would have to be storing it in a dry environment.


I understand your cnocern. hOwever It's not the wood I"m storing but rather a set of wood I got today via mail.

Thanks!

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

I don't know then, maybe someone else will chime in on the bleach thing.

Author:  KenH [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

A mild bleach solution spritzed on the mold will kill it and wont hurt the wood at all. I have used this for the wood I build furniture with for decades with no issues at all.

use a ratio of about a half cup of bleach per gallon of water.

Author:  SkyHigh [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

Hodges_Guitars wrote:
A mild bleach solution spritzed on the mold will kill it and wont hurt the wood at all. I have used this for the wood I build furniture with for decades with no issues at all.

use a ratio of about a half cup of bleach per gallon of water.


Hi Hesh,

Woudn't sanding it take the mold out too? Or do I need to use solution to kill all the mold in between the grain that you can not get with sand paper?

David

Author:  SkyHigh [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

fmorelli wrote:
Extra flooring works great. I had a few pieces of bamboo flooring from my shop build - rips fast, hard, cheap, dry. Then thanks to Todd Stock, I saw that he put rubber bands around the sticker ends so he can pick up a "pallet" of tonewood and move it without all the pieces shifting around.

Filippo


Wow that is clever. Using rubber band definetly would keep things aligned. Who is the Todd guy anyways? ;)

Author:  Lillian F-W [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:00 am ]
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SkyHigh wrote:
Hi Guys and Gals(do we have any gal members?)!

Thanks, David



Yup, there is one or four of us running wild amongst all the men here. Don't assume when you look at a name that you have the correct gender associated with it. You might be surprised, and I'm not talking about Heshie either.

Author:  KenH [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

SkyHigh wrote:
Hodges_Guitars wrote:
A mild bleach solution spritzed on the mold will kill it and wont hurt the wood at all. I have used this for the wood I build furniture with for decades with no issues at all.

use a ratio of about a half cup of bleach per gallon of water.


Hi Hesh,

Woudn't sanding it take the mold out too? Or do I need to use solution to kill all the mold in between the grain that you can not get with sand paper?

David


You could sand it, but all you would do is smear the mold around to find something new to eat on. It is better to kill the mold and sand it later when it is dead and dry.

Author:  SkyHigh [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

This is what I'm talking about. I don't know if it's mold or grease or what but it's dark and looks ugly. I just did bleach test on a small spot and found the color change was minimal. Perhaps I didn't put enough bleach on it. What do you guys thinik?

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Author:  WaddyThomson [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pine and Mold questions

My perception is that the bleach will kill the bacteria, maybe not remove it. You'll probably still have to scrape it off. It does, however have to be on there for a while to work. I'd spray it and let it sit overnight. Might want to wet the whole board to keep it from cupping.

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