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| Author: | jhowell [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Todd-- I saw them on the MIMF and enjoyed the presentation. Thanks for doing these. As a newbie to side bending, they answered a passel of questions that I've been mulling. One quick question though, after bending and cooling back down, do you reheat one more time to set the bends? |
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| Author: | Alain Desforges [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
What vids exactly? |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
I cook em twice and have not noticed any brittleness. I do the initial bend, let it cool completely, usually over an hour, cook again and after unplugging the thing (and checking it twice....) I leave it in the bender over night. I get less spring back this way. |
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| Author: | Lillian F-W [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7vd9wGG4LM http://youtube.com/watch?v=qhrHvfzfDLo http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRDv9e6MFM&feature=related |
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| Author: | Lillian F-W [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
ToddStock wrote: [snip] Shot below is the bent side held loosely in place with waist spreader - on a net shape bending form, the springback was nil. The Venetians I've been bending lately really benefit from a higher temp and a longer sit in the bender. Todd, I'm not clear about your last statement. Are you cooking them longer at a hight temp or are you using a higher temp and letting them cool longer? What is a net shape bending form? Thanks. |
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| Author: | Dave Higham [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
I too, saw the videos before you started this thread Todd and found them excellent. Although I knew the theory of how to do it and have bent some EIR in a Fox bender, there's nothing like actually seeing someone do it their way. You mentioned here, in the other thread, using SSll and I did wonder, watching the videos, as I don't think you mentioned it. |
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| Author: | SniderMike [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
EXCELLENT, Todd. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Nice videos, Todd. That took a lot of the mystery out of the process of using a bending machine for me. I had never seen that done before, completely. I was particularly interested in the removal process. I thought the slats would be springier than they seemed to be. |
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| Author: | Glenn LaSalle [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Hi Todd, I just watched the videos - great info, thank you very much! One question - What kind of paper were you using (and where does one get it)? Thanks! Glenn |
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| Author: | Jody [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
excellent tutorial Todd! thank you for taking the time to put it together for us! Jody |
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| Author: | Frei [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Ok, 2 questions, Best place to get spring steel, What type of setup with the thermometer? Will any of these thermocouplers work? Whats that setup? It seems to simplify the deal a bit. http://www.contractor-books.com/EX/Temp_Probes.htm . |
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| Author: | Frei [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Thanks Toddstock, thats a cool little thermometer steup. |
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| Author: | Jeremy Vonk [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Great tutorial...thanks! |
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| Author: | Frei [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
I honestly cant see doing it that way with Mahogany or Paduk. I used hot water soak, and rags with lots of water, and heated, screamed, yelled,  and finally got it close to shape, with some annoying springback, and slight scorching, even with all the water. Let it heat up for 12 minutes and then cooled down. Had to modify it in the outside mold.I would say the video is amusing if not bordering on the 'alchemical'. 
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
I liked the vids Todd. I didn't doze off once. Your set-up is excellent and your explanation of everything is very well done. Thanks ! And yes, A video on the cutaway ram would be great. I like your thermometer too.Its much better than the little candy thermometer i have. 
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| Author: | LaurieW [ Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fox Bender YouTube Vids in Tutorials and Videos |
Todd - thanks for the great vids - I'd be very intertested in a cutaway version - it seems to be a detail often overlooked and most people in my experienxce want a venetian cutaway. I bend them by hand at the moment, but would love to see a Fox Bender do one before I invest the $$. Thanks, Laurie |
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