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Author: | npalen [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Checkering on a guitar? |
http://www.blueberryguitars.com/en/about/new/groove.html |
Author: | John How [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Groovy man, like wow!!! |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:30 am ] |
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interesting look!! Just think of all the dust that can build up on that surface |
Author: | jhowell [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
That is certainly over the top! I have wondered though about why some of the more artistic checkering that can be found on rifle stocks hasn't been done more often on guitar heels and headstocks. |
Author: | Howard Klepper [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
I wonder if the Blueberry folks know yet that their site has been hijacked by some clever hoaxsters. |
Author: | WaddyThomson [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
It certainly solves the problem of the Gloss Finish, and allows the use of low end woods. |
Author: | Barry Daniels [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Gimmick. |
Author: | npalen [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
As a non-player, I have to ask. Do the grooves on the back of the neck have any merit? |
Author: | Michael Jin [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Looks quite gimmicky to me in terms of its potential effect on tone, but I must admit that I sort've like the look. ^^ |
Author: | Loren Schulte [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Now what do I do with all this grain filler? |
Author: | RaymundH [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Dust build up? Think about trying to get the regular funk off that builds up due to player residue...Ewwwwww.... |
Author: | Don Williams [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Howard Klepper wrote: I wonder if the Blueberry folks know yet that their site has been hijacked by some clever hoaxsters. Well said! npalen wrote: As a non-player, I have to ask. Do the grooves on the back of the neck have any merit? Just an annoyance... it's over-the-top bad marketing. |
Author: | James Orr [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:47 pm ] |
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Author: | Don Williams [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:04 pm ] |
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I must admit that the carvings on the backs and sides can be quite nicely done. But I'm not buyin' the whole carving on the top thing. There's just no good reason for it and potentially a lot of good reasons not to. |
Author: | zac_in_ak [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
First thing that pops into my head...crack issues it feels like a cheezy gimmick |
Author: | Bob Garrish [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Don Williams wrote: Howard Klepper wrote: I wonder if the Blueberry folks know yet that their site has been hijacked by some clever hoaxsters. Well said! npalen wrote: As a non-player, I have to ask. Do the grooves on the back of the neck have any merit? Just an annoyance... it's over-the-top bad marketing. Actually, the grooves on the back of the neck are the only part I think -is- a good idea. I'm thinking I might give something similar a go on one of mine, at least on the 12th fret or something. Looking at their stuff on eBay, I find it interesting that they've got these wonderful, intricate, and expertly done carvings all over the guitar, and it looks like they have 1/16" of fill all around their inlays (thicker in some places). It's sort of like polishing up all the chrome when the paint's rusted off the car... |
Author: | Sam Price [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
I cannot stand this particular brand of guitar. The carving on the headstock looks like all carving attempts on guitars...like something has relieved themselves... The grooves just make me ill.... When a design element is added to a guitar, the first question that should be asked is; is this going to detract from the grace and form of what a guitar should look like; and does it add bulk where bulk is not needed? The carving straight away makes me think the guitar will be overly headstock heavy, (bang, crack, Oh dear, the neck's broken I wonder why?) and those grooves...remind me of this uke made entirely of matchsticks... |
Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Believe it or not the grooves cut into the back of the neck are there as physical fret markers so....and I quote Mr. Fonfetter....."the player can become more intimate with the neck." I especially liked his comment during an interview at the most recent NAMM Show when he said, "I had left my guitar in my hotel in Hong Kong." Who leaves their guitar in a hotel anywhere? I don't get the excitement over these things, but have to admit that it's not the most bizarre thing I've ever seen introduced to the guitar industry. I actually like the carvings in the backs and sides since i'm a fan of relief carving. The carving in the headstock and the top is another story and does nothing for me. If you want to see what carving ona guitar can and should be, take a look at some of Bruce Kunkel's work.....I hope he's OK with me pushing his incredible talent here at the OLF. Bruce worked for Gibson in Nashville doing some of the best custom work thay had to offer but recently moved back to PA and lives only about 25 minutes from me. I've met and spent a little time with him but am looking forward to some time in his shop where I can see him do a carving or two. His site is at http://www.kunkelguitars.com and showcases some of his pieces. The guy is a world class talent in lutherie and specializes in several expressions of his awesome artistic talent such as his carving and painting/drawing. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
Author: | Don Williams [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Personally, I would find the carving on the back of the neck to be very distracting. I realized they are meant to be fret markers, but if regular fret markers work, why carve into the neck? Like I said, the thought of carvings on the back of the neck being used to mark the frets would bother me and distract me. I can't be alone in this...I get annoyed playing a guitar that doesn't feel right to my hand...with a consistent surface and curvature. |
Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
I agree Don. I seem to have grown a bit attached to actually looking at the either the fret or side markers if I need to locate a position or reference one on the fingerboard. One thing that has always been a pet peeve for me is deep dings or scratches through the finish on neck of a guitar that I'm playing. It's more of a distraction to me than it could ever be a comfort. Damage to the body I can live with and actually appreciate as part of the guitar's life story, but damage to a neck is something that I've always repaired quickly to avoid having to feel it back there. I got a guitar from a pretty well known Irish guitarist back in the early 90s when he visited my shop and we traded an electric that he'd had since the mid 60s for an acoustic that I'd built in 1993. When I got that guitar from him, it had deep recesses worn into the Maple of the neck at the 2nd to 3rd fret and the 10th to 12th fret areas where he had spent so many hours playing in his favorite positions. I never did anything with them, but they would be something that bugged me if I played the thing often....which I don't. They are just a great testament to how much he played that guitar over the nearly 30 years that he had it. It's one of the few that I've held onto from my (once large) guitar collection. Maybe there are some out there who will view this as a beneficial thing. The only funny thing about it that they'd better really take care of the back of their guitar necks or they'll be losing their gig with the band because they are constantly playing out of key as they reference the scratches in their necks instead of the carved lines. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
Author: | Howard Klepper [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
That work of Bruce's is just great. Thanks for posting it, Kevin. |
Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
Howard, I'm glad you liked Bruce's work. The most amazing part of his talent is that he does much of it freehand and with little to no layout....just his idea, a vision and his carving tools. He works right now with a young who attends the church that I pastor in a huge high tech super tooled cabinet shop in NJ that. I believe that the shop belongs to someone in his family and that he's just biding his time there until his shop is ready to accommodate customers and his building machinery and fixtures. That young guy tells me that Bruce will go at a custom carving on a project in the shop and, in a matter of minutes, will have a carving that looks like it should have taken days to accomplish. He's a true artist who also happens to be a master craftsman. From what I hear, he's a great guitar player and can really hammer a tune out of a banjo, too. Check out his site if you get a chance. He has some different design ideas and he still shows some of the more elaborate custom shop projects he did while at Gibson. Thanks, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
Author: | John Mayes [ Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Checkering on a guitar? |
That is awesome carving. +1 on what Howard said. |
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