What types of planes and chisels and anything special about the tip of the chisels as if double beveled or rounded heel or front bent? How about it Hesh, I know you like shaving braces.
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What Tools Are You Using To Shape Your Braces? |
What types of planes and chisels and anything special about the tip of the chisels as if double beveled or rounded heel or front bent? How about it Hesh, I know you like shaving braces.
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| Author: | Chris aka Sniggly [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Tools Are You Using To Shape Your Braces? |
I'll go..... I use an Ibex plane, small one with a convex bottom, and Lee Valley 1/2 inch chisel turned on it's back for the scooping. Disclosure: I've only done this once in my whole life..... 
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:09 pm ] |
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One Ibex finger plane and one 1/2" chisel and sand 'em pretty. |
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| Author: | Brad T [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Tools Are You Using To Shape Your Braces? |
The chisel on the top right, a 1/2" wide short chisel with a rounded bevel, and one of those el-cheapo stanley small stamped steel planes! Attachment: 57d06xxgt.jpg Sandpaper, too. Cheap, but effective |
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| Author: | Goobie [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:48 pm ] |
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Yup... Pretty much planes, chisels and sandpaper. For chisels, I tend to reach mostly for my 1" LMI chisel for carving off a lot of excess wood and tapering brace ends. I use a 1/2" Hirsch cranked neck chisel for doing any clean-up that might need to be done. For back braces I use a small plane almost exclusively for shaping. I use small sanding blocks with 80 or 100 grit paper and clean everything up. Cheers, Chad |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:23 pm ] |
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Hi Chris! I use mostly finger planes, the Ibex 12 and 18mm ones. I do use a paring chisel too but mostly for feathering away the ends and getting rid of the pesky excess mass at the X intersection where it is too close to get a plane in there. I would say that 90% of my carving is done with finger planes though. You are right too Chris carving braces is the best part of guitar building for me. ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up")
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| Author: | stan thomison [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:27 pm ] |
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Bandsaw, shaper, beltsander, small plane, chisle's |
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| Author: | Burton LeGeyt [ Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:49 pm ] |
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belt sander before gluing, double sided razor blades after, then sandpaper. |
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| Author: | Sylvan [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:25 am ] |
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Pin router before glueup. Small plane for cleanup after gluing. |
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:26 am ] |
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I use my block plane, scary sharp 1/2" chisel, small finger plane, and sandpaper. |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:00 am ] |
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Splitting maul and an axe! 
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| Author: | David LaPlante [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:38 pm ] |
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Attachment: Brace tools.jpg
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| Author: | L. Presnall [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:32 pm ] |
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Lance Kragenbrink wrote: Splitting maul and an axe! So THAT'S how you get 'em so clean!
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| Author: | Mike Collins [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Tools Are You Using To Shape Your Braces? |
I use a low angle block plane for the tall braces(back-#1  classicals) And a 1/2" chisel with the corners ground smooth so it can be pushed along a fan brace and touch the guitartop without cutting into it! The center of the chisel is still sharp to remove brace material-but no top wood dings!! mike |
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Tools Are You Using To Shape Your Braces? |
Todd, how do you like the double bevel chisel compared to the single bevel chisel? I just finished a book on carving tools and sharpening. I saw a video on Martin and the gale doing the braces just used a 1/2" chisel. Although it looked like a longer one or a longer handle. Has anyone here tried using those little brass / wood planes from Harbor Freight? I've read where they're not that bad if you sharpen the blades or put better steel blades in them. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What Tools Are You Using To Shape Your Braces? |
I just chew the braces until they are in the perfect shape. Good toothpicks can be had, and good tone can be made. |
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:00 pm ] |
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Hey John Elton, I just finished watching your videos on voicing tops that arrived today. Great videos they will be a great help to me for voicing. I know what you use for shaving braces.
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| Author: | RodN [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:45 am ] |
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As a matter of interest, at the Martin factory I was surprised to see it being done by hand with simply a chisel. (Including the scalloped braces). She was fast and incredibly neat! As you can see, they are not all tiny whispers of shavings either.   Rod |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:30 am ] |
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As much as I like little planes, I don't use them for shaping braces. They always bump into things, besides they are really slow compared to a chisel where you can let the chips fly. So paring chisel for me, a single 3/4" Taylor (pictured) or Blue Spruce is what I like best. I rough out the shape from rectangular beams to something that looks like guitar braces quickly and then start fiddling, flexing etc until I think I'm where I want to be and sand lightly to finish up. These braces are still oversize, of course. 
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| Author: | TonyFrancis [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:46 am ] |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:58 am ] |
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Rod buddy fascinating pictures from the Martin factory!
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| Author: | Chris Paulick [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:19 pm ] |
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Todd , Thanks for giving me an idea for another use of my motorized radius dish jig. I see no reason why I couldn't put my work dish in the sanding jig and place 1/4" dowels in holding position. And just turn the dish on the lazy susan to position it. Maybe add a hold down clamp to keep it from spinning while shaving the braces. |
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| Author: | jmanter [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:51 pm ] |
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Lie Nielson block plane for the radius, then ibex finger plane, schneider plane and japanese paring chisels (usually either 3/4" or 1") for shaping. I also have various sanding sticks that I use for the finishing touches... |
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