A picture is worth 1000 words...
Approved prototype template for Gibson 335 (Alex Lifeson model):
Production (68 of 300):
Officially, Gibson has not responded.
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| Author: | WarrenG [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:01 am ] |
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A picture is worth 1000 words... Approved prototype template for Gibson 335 (Alex Lifeson model): Production (68 of 300): Officially, Gibson has not responded. |
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| Author: | Laurent Brondel [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
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| Author: | WarrenG [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
laurent wrote: ? Is it because you don't see the problem? |
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| Author: | Dave White [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Maybe Alex Lifeson doesn't use the first fret much - that's why they put a side dot marker there in case he gets lost and forgets 
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| Author: | WarrenG [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
That's 'cause he plays way up high on the tiny strings going: meedley meedley meedley meedley meedley meedley meedley meedley meedley meedley MEEEEEEEEEEE! Strongbad reference, sorry. http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail36.html |
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| Author: | Cal Maier [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Well, I don't know about Alex, but I prefer my volute a bit closer to the headstock end of the neck..  Cal |
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| Author: | JRE Productions [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
I think typical of the NORLIN era Gibson guitars, the volute was located in the wrong location. The weakness of the neck is a bit higher up the neck than that area. One thing to mentions is that your hand does tilt slightly when playing at the first fret. That volute is probably not as much in the way as it may look in the picture...though it does look way low on the neck/headstock. I'll pull a few pics of NORLIN era gibsons just to peek at the location of the volute. Joe |
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| Author: | WarrenG [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Anyway, this is coming out of the Gibson Custom Shop who claim to have 'created a painstaking recreation of Alex's iconic instrument'. Unfortunately, the quality issues I'm reading on the Gibson forum from people who have actually bought them, leave much to be desired. Not to mention that the neck isn't the same as his original '76. Fmaj5 anyone? |
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| Author: | JRE Productions [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Here is a pic of a 1969/70 small volute from Gibson. Notice how low this one goes too. It past the nut.... 
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| Author: | JRE Productions [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Here is a 73 Goldtop...the volute was softly reshaped by me moving it upward just a touch. It still was just past the nut 
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| Author: | JRE Productions [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Warren, Just to educate myself on this topic, what is different about the neck of the custom shop verses the real 76 he played? Is it just the volute or are there other things too? I have not looked into this model yet, but feel pretty educated on Gibson guitars in general, so any detail you can provide would be cool. Thanks! Joe |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Did they actually paint over the side of the nut? |
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| Author: | WarrenG [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
The only thing I'm aware of is the volute. One gentleman actually saw Alex's '76 and his personal prototype side by side and said they were different. Here's a volute from a '73 335: 
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| Author: | JRE Productions [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
Don Williams wrote: Did they actually paint over the side of the nut? Yes the tape off the binding and the lower edge of the nut gets a finish over it. That has been standard at Gibson for a long time. |
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| Author: | JRE Productions [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
WarrenG wrote: The only thing I'm aware of is the volute. One gentleman actually saw Alex's '76 and his personal prototype side by side and said they were different. Here's a volute from a '73 335: Whoa! That one is much higher than I have seen. There must be an inch difference in placement between the C/S white one above and the original 73. Now that is huge! I did not think the volute varied that much in placement on Gibson from the 70's, but that one in your picture looks higher than others I have seen. So maybe they were all over the place? The gold top I showed is somewhere between the white C/S and the brown one you just posted. I think its right close to the nut. Good info..Thanks! |
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| Author: | Mattia Valente [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Con-voluted Gibson |
I used to have my volutes a little further past the nut than I do now, but nowhere near that far in. Shifted them back because, well, it wasn't that comfortable to play/it felt better moving it further back, with the peak roughly at the front or even back edge of the nut, depending on headstock shape, angle, etc |
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