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For me..a long time Gibson enthusist, SJ always stood for Super Jumbo. As in the J200! That is a big box with a big tone! I am now seeing people calling a smaller version of the J200 an SJ. Does that stand for "small jumbo"? The appear to have the same shape with the oversize bouts and thin waist, just smaller. I think the J200 is a 16.5" body. What size is the smaller version?

Is there a distinction that can be made when we see the acronym SJ for which it is refering to?

Thanks to anyone that can clear this up.

Joe

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Joe although the term SJ is a contradiction of terms generally speaking when we use it here we mean small jumbo. Also there are a number of different small jumbo shapes and I think, but certainly could be wrong, that Olson was one of the first to offer a small jumbo but his shape is different from the OLF/Stew-Mac/Sir Michael Payne version.

I would give you the measurements but all my plans are in some stinkin box with dry wall dust on it.......

Joe, I'll offer up my 2 cents worth. In the world of Gibson I always thought that SJ stood for Southern Jumbo (double parallelogram inlays on fretboard) not Super Jumbo.

My Small Jumbo (OLF Stewmac) is 15" lower bout 11 5/8" upper bout 9 3/4" spread between waist valley and roughly 2" radius waist 4 1/2" major depth and 3 7/8" minor depth Most small jumbos will fall close to this. except in the shape My SJ has the more rounded lower bout somewhat but not exactly like a Gibson J200 ( I am talking shape only not dimensions) An Olson is more OM-ish in shape. you can see the shape of my SJ and MJ in the Stewmac thread

Ha ha...even Gibson has two names..and you are correct. I have often heard the term southern jumbo for the double parallelogram version. Gibson also used the term Super Jumbo on models like the J100. Here is a link of a modern gibson J100 called Super jumbo http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions/Gibson%20Acoustic/Modern%20Classics/Super%20Jumbos/SJ%2D100/ and the Gibson J200 http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions/Gibson%20Acoustic/Modern%20Classics/Super%20Jumbos/SJ%2D200/

I don't see a "southern jumbo" in the line up, but I know we called them that back in the day.

Joe

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was the gibson southern jumbo dread shaped? with slope shoulders? Jody

In the early 60's the Country Western was a slope shoulder D. Parallellogram FB markers, sunburst mahogany.

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