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Thanks for making and sharing another great video Robbie!

-Using black dye will make your guitar overall darker than it would right? So if I was to use this method on Indian Rosewood, it would make it darker than natural wood color even after sanding?

-Would this method of pore filling help or completly cover up Mineral deposits somtimes found on Indian Rosewood?

Thank you, David

Robbie, I think the use of drywall compound for pore filler is innovative and time saving but I would be very concerned about shrinkage. What have you experienced in regards to this?

Robbie my friend I am really enjoying the series of very cool tips - Thank You! [:Y:]

I was wondering though about the format - might not a "Luthier's Gone Wild" format with perhaps some different instructors be interesting too?

What a nice job of pore filling.

May I ask what brand of black tint you used on the sheetrock mud?

Pretty cool Robbie, thanks.

I did see in the new Stew mac catalogue that they are selling a famous luthiers calendar. Perhaps you could find something of interest in it?? laughing6-hehe

HMMM.....something else to try! Thanks for the vid, Robbie! On rosewood, how many applications on average do you have to apply?

Additionally, I know that with the oil based silex stuff, a wash coat can be applied to the guitar prior to pore filling in order to keep the wood from darkening with the stain in the filler. Is this something that could be done successfully when using sheetrock compound?

Author:	Robbie O'Brien [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:39 pm ]
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The newest Luthier Tips du Jour video is up today. This one is on pore filling using drywall compound. Enjoy!

Author:	SkyHigh [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:09 pm ]
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Thanks for making and sharing another great video Robbie! -Using black dye will make your guitar overall darker than it would right? So if I was to use this method on Indian Rosewood, it would make it darker than natural wood color even after sanding? -Would this method of pore filling help or completly cover up Mineral deposits somtimes found on Indian Rosewood? Thank you, David

Author:	Peter J [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:34 am ]
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Robbie, I think the use of drywall compound for pore filler is innovative and time saving but I would be very concerned about shrinkage. What have you experienced in regards to this?

Author:	Robbie O'Brien [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:17 am ]
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SkyHigh wrote: Thanks for making and sharing another great video Robbie! -Using black dye will make your guitar overall darker than it would right? So if I was to use this method on Indian Rosewood, it would make it darker than natural wood color even after sanding? -Would this method of pore filling help or completly cover up Mineral deposits somtimes found on Indian Rosewood? Thank you, David David, Once you sand the stuff back you only have the black color in the pores. The wood itself goes almost completely back to its original color. Try it on a piece of scrap and you'll see. This method can also help with mineral deposits although sharpies work wonders for that problem.

Author:	Robbie O'Brien [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:19 am ]
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Peter J wrote: Robbie, I think the use of drywall compound for pore filler is innovative and time saving but I would be very concerned about shrinkage. What have you experienced in regards to this? I haven't notice any shrinkage. I guess you could have some until it completely dries but this stuff dries so quickly that I have never had a problem with or even noticed shrinkage.

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Author:	Hesh [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:07 pm ]
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Robbie my friend I am really enjoying the series of very cool tips - Thank You! I was wondering though about the format - might not a "Luthier's Gone Wild" format with perhaps some different instructors be interesting too?

Author:	Robbie O'Brien [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:05 pm ]
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Hesh wrote: Robbie my friend I am really enjoying the series of very cool tips - Thank You! I was wondering though about the format - might not a "Luthier's Gone Wild" format with perhaps some different instructors be interesting too? HAHAHA Good one Hesh! I am glad you are enjoying them. Maybe I could come up with some video effects or transitions on the next one just to shake things up a bit. I did see in the new Stew mac catalogue that they are selling a famous luthiers calendar. Perhaps you could find something of interest in it??

Author:	Hesh [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:32 pm ]
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No, no, no - the last thing that I want to see if a bunch of crusty old Luthiers. What I meant was, well you know.....

Author:	Bruce Dickey [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:56 pm ]
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What a nice job of pore filling. May I ask what brand of black tint you used on the sheetrock mud? Pretty cool Robbie, thanks.

Author:	Robbie O'Brien [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:07 pm ]
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Bruce Dickey wrote: What a nice job of pore filling. May I ask what brand of black tint you used on the sheetrock mud? Pretty cool Robbie, thanks. Thanks Bruce. I used the Chroma- Chem 844 lamp black made by Degussa. It is just a universal tint like what they use at paint stores to tint your paints. If you are nice, some stores might even give you a shot or two free.

Author:	Bruce Dickey [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:00 pm ]
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Thanks Robbie. I'll see what they say... Hmmm, I wonder what some other tints might look like as well? 'preciate you sharing this tip, mmm hmm!

Author:	WaddyThomson [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:49 pm ]
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I have seen those tints in little tubes. Probably not a cheap way to get them, but they work great. I have also gotten paint stores to give me a cup of say Burnt Umber when I buy something like a gallon of primer, and tell them I'm going to need to mix a little to a darker color for priming under dark colored paints. Don't think I've ever been turned down.

Author:	Ron M. [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:23 pm ]
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That was cool Robbie, thanks. Ron M.

Author:	Sam Price [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:17 am ]
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Fabulous Robbie, thanks. I love watching these vids, they are very well made and the information provided is as clear as crystal Robbie O'Brien wrote: I did see in the new Stew mac catalogue that they are selling a famous luthiers calendar. Perhaps you could find something of interest in it?? Not interested- but how about our BillyT release his own version of the OLF Doctored Luthier calendar?

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Author:	Brad T [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:27 am ]
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HMMM.....something else to try! Thanks for the vid, Robbie! On rosewood, how many applications on average do you have to apply? Additionally, I know that with the oil based silex stuff, a wash coat can be applied to the guitar prior to pore filling in order to keep the wood from darkening with the stain in the filler. Is this something that could be done successfully when using sheetrock compound?

Author:	Robbie O'Brien [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:44 am ]
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Brad T wrote: HMMM.....something else to try! Thanks for the vid, Robbie! On rosewood, how many applications on average do you have to apply? Additionally, I know that with the oil based silex stuff, a wash coat can be applied to the guitar prior to pore filling in order to keep the wood from darkening with the stain in the filler. Is this something that could be done successfully when using sheetrock compound? Brad, Usually one to two applications is all it takes. A wash coat can be applied first too. This is what I do with the lacquer on the purfling lines but you could do it to the whole guitar. However, I don't find it necessary with this stuff.