Just happen to be putting some necks together. Here are Spanish volutes (gawd, I hope we don't get into wrong term use again).
Full details of the joint construction can be found on my website.
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| Author: | Chris Ensor [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Show me your volutes! |
I am interested to see other peoples volutes! So post some pictures please. And if you have any other back of headstock details you would like to share, that would be cool as well. But I am most interested to see how different people form their volutes. Not just carve them, but how you construct them from phase one. So... if you are feeling generous, please post pics of the process and a discription of how you do it. Thanks. |
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| Author: | SteveCourtright [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Here is one of mine. |
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| Author: | Haans [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Just happen to be putting some necks together. Here are Spanish volutes (gawd, I hope we don't get into wrong term use again). Full details of the joint construction can be found on my website. |
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| Author: | Hupaand [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Just so you know there is a learning curve and they are not all so pretty. |
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| Author: | Foster [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:56 pm ] |
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Haans wrote: Full details of the joint construction can be found on my website. I like the way you you do your slot heads. Is that your idea or is it traditional? I will definitely checkout your site. |
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| Author: | Chris Ensor [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Thanks for all the great responses so far. The volute that I am most interested it is the one pictured below. I have taken a stab or two at it, but I would like to know how you guys might approach it. But please also keep posting about all other back headstock details. Thanks. I should note that the picture below is one I found on google and not one of mine. |
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| Author: | woody b [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
It will be a couple weeks before I do another one, but I leave a thick area when I band saw the neck blank, then thickness the headstock in my drum sander. The rounded part is where the drum sander stops. You kinda leave the other part when carving the neck. 
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| Author: | RustySP [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
A question about the volute pictured in Chris's post: Is this type only for the one piece neck or can this be done on a scarf joint also, and if so can a belt sander be used? |
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| Author: | Haans [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Bert, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I don't think you can make the slots without doing the P/H-neck joint also... |
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| Author: | Hupaand [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Chris' volute can be done with a scarf joint. The neck board is thicker than the head board. Where they meet it is thick enough for that rounded volute. (or the diamond) |
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| Author: | StevenWheeler [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
RustySP wrote: A question about the volute pictured in Chris's post: Is this type only for the one piece neck or can this be done on a scarf joint also, and if so can a belt sander be used? Yes you can do that volute with a scarf joint. I'm real good with a belt sander, I'm not sure if I could do that job with one. That operation has spindle sander written all over it. Steve |
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| Author: | Robert Renick [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:48 pm ] |
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I left a lump in the blank and used an osillating spindle sander with an adjustable router fence so I could bump it in little by little. Then bent the cherry for the back on the hot pipe. There is a good tutorial in the tute section that I used to do this. viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=25874&hilit=strap+back |
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| Author: | SteveCourtright [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:11 pm ] |
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I have seen John Watkins do that curved kind by eye with a horizontal belt sander and a hand sanding block for fine tuning. |
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| Author: | Jim Watts [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Here's mine. First I leave a section that looks like ski jump from the side view and draw the arc on and final shape with rasps and files. Attachment: back of head stock.jpg
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:04 pm ] |
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I did a tutorial on this a while back http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=25874&hilit=strap+back |
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| Author: | Jim Watts [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
Sure enough, just like Arnt does! |
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| Author: | peterm [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
I do my with a jig and a router, unfortunately I don't have any pics.... 
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:31 am ] |
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Filippo, I'm a fan of those "backstrap" transistions, but the slight "feathering" of the veneer edges that you see put me off a bit. Are you pretty much obliged to "inlay" the veneers first (based on target neck thickness) in order to get sharp edges after carving?? |
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| Author: | Chris Ensor [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:11 pm ] |
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Wow you guys do some great work. I have a jet 16-32 thickness sander. Do you think that with the rollers in it, that I could still do things the way Arnt shows in his tut? Peter and Filippo, those are some beauties you got there. Congrats on the great work. |
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| Author: | Geordie Adams [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:36 pm ] |
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Haans, very fine work. peterm , why cant I do that? gorgeous Geordie |
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| Author: | woody b [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:06 pm ] |
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Chris Ensor wrote: Wow you guys do some great work. I have a jet 16-32 thickness sander. Do you think that with the rollers in it, that I could still do things the way Arnt shows in his tut? Peter and Filippo, those are some beauties you got there. Congrats on the great work. I use a 10-20, but I've removed the front roller. |
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| Author: | mcb1 [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:31 pm ] |
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here is one of mine |
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| Author: | Mark A Thorpe [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:56 pm ] |
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Just a little something I did different on a couple of them. |
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| Author: | DennisK [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:47 pm ] |
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It's still a little rough, and next time I need to adjust it so it extends over the nut area to strengthen it. Also need to try a back plate sometime to cover that scarf line, although it will be a little tricky getting the "lip" right without cutting through. Lots of shaving with a chisel and gouge. |
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| Author: | John Arnold [ Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Show me your volutes! |
This one is a simple scarf joint. 
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