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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Hi everybody, here's Andrea from Italy again..as always sorry for the language! I'm ready to start a new project based on Taylor GT-8 The scale will be 27.105 or 668,5 mm, body shape Taylor GS, 14th fret neck-body joint, sitka or italian red spruce top, indian rosewood back/sides, ebony fingerboard and bridge. Now I'm in the planning stage..and thinking about top bracing I've encountered some issues for bridgeplate placement, here's an image that shows some approx placement and measurements..what do you think? way too far from X or soundhole? I didn't find so much on google about baritone bracing..thats a standard GS bracing thanks and greetings from Italy! Andrea |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Interesting. The biggest thing that jumps out to me is that the X doesn't cross over the bridge at all, it's very close but I would move the X brace back so the arms of the X cross over the back corner of your bridge wing. This will also make the bridge plate smaller which IMO is a good thing. |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Rod True wrote: Interesting. The biggest thing that jumps out to me is that the X doesn't cross over the bridge at all, it's very close but I would move the X brace back so the arms of the X cross over the back corner of your bridge wing. This will also make the bridge plate smaller which IMO is a good thing. Thanks for the help Rod! Should I shift only the X or the finger braces/ tonebars too? |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
andrea albrile wrote: Rod True wrote: Interesting. The biggest thing that jumps out to me is that the X doesn't cross over the bridge at all, it's very close but I would move the X brace back so the arms of the X cross over the back corner of your bridge wing. This will also make the bridge plate smaller which IMO is a good thing. Thanks for the help Rod! Should I shift only the X or the finger braces/ tonebars too? Well, I would shift the finger braces too. I like my top finger brace to be near the front of the bridge with the back finger brace to be behind the bridge slightly. Tonebars, I`d move the lower tone bar down a bit but that`s just me.... Draw it all out again but make sure the X braces crosses over the wings of the bridge. You want to make a 8 string so you`re going to have more tension too remember. Place the sound hole based on where the fretboard lands, not based off the Taylor plan. Make sure you draw your fretboard out too as my guess is the sound hole will have to be moved down with the longer scale. |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Very useful and clear, a precious help! The fingerboard will stop at 20th fret so the soundhole begins there, am I right? thanks Rod! |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
andrea albrile wrote: Very useful and clear, a precious help! The fingerboard will stop at 20th fret so the soundhole begins there, am I right? thanks Rod! Yes within a couple mm of the end of the fretboard you can start your soundhole edge, place center based off the edge and size of soundhole you want to use. Locate bridge next then the rest of the braces. |
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
If you have 20 frets, then the soundhole edge is about the 21st fret .. |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Thanks Tony and Rod, I'll post my progress! Andrea |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Hi everybody! this week I've "just" made some MDF molds..for now and for the future  What a mess!! Still waiting for wood.. I've decided to shift the X about 5mm towards the tail and the body-neck join will be between 14 and 15 fret  greetings from Italy! Andrea |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Ciao ragazzi! this week I've worked a little.. the order of photos is inverted  read from bottom to top Bye for now! Andrea |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Hi friends! some progress in my building journey! greetings from the cold Italy! Andrea |
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| Author: | RaymundH [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
These are always helpful... http://www.ebay.com/itm/TS-8-String-Bar ... 2c6118652c http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-TS-8-S ... 2eb992626c You can always e-mail Waldron for more specs... |
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| Author: | Corky Long [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Nice work, Andrea!! Also, I'm jealous of your setup - looks like a pretty professional set of tools. One thing on posting pictures - after you upload a picture, right next to that file, there's a button which says something like "place photo in sequence" or something like that. Place the cursor wherever you want the photo in your post, and you can sequence the photos however you want. Keep us posted on your progress. |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Corky Long wrote: One thing on posting pictures - after you upload a picture, right next to that file, there's a button which says something like "place photo in sequence" or something like that. Place the cursor wherever you want the photo in your post, and you can sequence the photos however you want. Keep us posted on your progress. Thank you Cory! now I understand why I mess with photos uploading  I've built the most of my jig, and always buy the best tool I can afford! Ciao! Andrea |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
RaymundH wrote: These are always helpful... http://www.ebay.com/itm/TS-8-String-Bar ... 2c6118652c http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-TS-8-S ... 2eb992626c You can always e-mail Waldron for more specs... Thanks for the links, with shipping and custom duties in Italy will be expensive  ciao |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Mon May 06, 2013 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
[Hi folks! been very busy with my work but now i'm french polishing! Attachment: Foto 29-04-13 18 16 15.jpg Attachment: Foto 29-04-13 17 57 06.jpg Attachment: Foto 29-04-13 17 25 44.jpg Attachment: Foto 04-05-13 13 02 02.jpg Attachment: Foto 04-05-13 12 57 18.jpg Now after 10 guitars I think its time for a buffing machine..can't find something like shop fox from grizzly in Europe! I'm planning to build one with go kart axes and my question is: are these rods easy to thread or need a professionist to do this? thanks ciao dall'Italia! |
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| Author: | Ken Franklin [ Mon May 06, 2013 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
On the right side you need left handed threads on the rod and on the left side you need right handed threads. |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Mon May 06, 2013 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Thanks Ken! Do you think I can try to thread the rod or is better to ask a shop to do the job? |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Mon May 06, 2013 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
andrea albrile wrote: Thanks Ken! Do you think I can try to thread the rod or is better to ask a shop to do the job? depends on what equipment you have, and what u want to invest. Do you have a large capable of cutting threads? |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Mon May 06, 2013 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
No but I can purchase the tools at local store, I'm wondering if with hobbistic tools I can thread this kind of rod Thanks |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Mon May 06, 2013 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
If you are cutting the threads with dies you will need one left hand and one right hand die. Depending on the hardness of the rods I think you should be able to thread them yourself. But buying dies for rods 3/4" or larger it may be cheaper to just have a professional do it. Someone who already had the tools could be done in no time at very little cost |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Mon May 06, 2013 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Thank you I'll try to contact a professional.. |
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| Author: | andrea albrile [ Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Finished last night! A pleasure to share with you and thanks for the endless help! Ciao! Andrea Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1371509219.969133.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1371509229.487139.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1371509257.899678.jpg
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Bravo man, bravo! |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: baritone 8 string..ready to start again! |
Very cool. |
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