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Author:  Tom West [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:10 pm ]
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If you think your senses can't fool you.....................think of listening to guitars and the name on the headstock...............check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm ... e=youtu.be
Tom

Author:  Corky Long [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 pm ]
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wow - that is really trippy. Cool - amazing how our brains can trick us.

Author:  Alex Kleon [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:26 pm ]
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In my home, it's called the "Chris" effect. Through 29 years of marriage, I say one thing, and my wife consistantly hears something totally different. [headinwall] I am quite sure that this is fairly wide spread!

Alex

Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:14 pm ]
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I would think this was a bunch of crap except for the fact that I just went out to the shop to bend some bindings onto a headstock. I turned on the iron, waited for it to get hot, squirted some water on it and watched it steam, wetted my binding a hair, touched it to the iron, heard it sizzle, and then.......nothing. The wood did not relax the way it was supposed to, and didn't seem to be getting dryer.

In puzzlement I looked around.

Well, it seems the iron was unplugged!

Too bad my imagination wasn't strong enough to also actually bend the wood cold, that would have been awesome!

Author:  Jim Watts [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:12 pm ]
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that's pretty cool.

Author:  Kent Chasson [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:41 pm ]
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Thanks for posting that.

I just finished reading "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman. He's a Nobel winning economist who has made a career of studying how and why it is so difficult (impossible?) for humans to be objective. It's not just visual cues that can subconsciously skew our thinking.

Author:  Tom West [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:31 am ]
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Kent: If you are inclined there is another small article in "Discover" magazine, June 2013 issue called "The better to fool others" that may be of interest. I find this stuff enlightening and a bit freeing as it helps one understand how we all see the world in our own way. Take care.
Tom

Author:  mqbernardo [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:41 pm ]
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is it just me that keeps hearing bah all the way along?

Author:  Tom West [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:17 pm ]
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Miguel: Funny you should say that but I put this on the Australian /New Zealand forum and someone said the same thing. It may have to do with accents, native language type of thing. I find it quite amazing no matter what is going on.
Tom

Author:  David Malicky [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:35 pm ]
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Kent and Tom, thanks for those recs!

Author:  mqbernardo [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:19 pm ]
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Tom: yes, maybe because i´m not a native speaker it´s harder to get it. i asked my wife and she felt the same.

Author:  Jim Kirby [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:02 am ]
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Non-native speaker may play a roll as your not used to exactly the same face cues?

I tried this on everyone in my family - for all except one, the effect was distinct. One son said that the switchover was so quick that when he was looking at the two faces side by side, the sound almost seemed to change in mid tone if he looked back and forth quickly.

The exception was my oldest son, who is mildly autistic. One aspect of autism that comes up a lot is the concept of "face blindness". It is associated with difficulty in processing visual and auditory input at the same time, with usually a preference for processing the auditory as it is simpler (possibly). Some autistic people have a great deal of difficulty remembering people by their faces, which of course is so central for most of us. At any rate, he doesn't hear the effect - he always heard baaa's. He even had trouble processing the two inputs well enough to hear a faaa even when he knew that that was the typical response (after we explained it to him).

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