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Author:  Carl [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Clamps vs. Go-Bars

Does anyone prefer clamps over go-bars?

Author:  Josh H [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:24 pm ]
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It all depends on what you are using them for. I do all my bracing with go-bars and would not want to try doing the same things with clamps, due to the number of clamps I would need to accomplish the same tasks. But besides bracing and gluing on the top and back, I do all other gluing operations with clamps. For my method of building I need both.

Josh

Author:  ernie [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:26 pm ]
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yes. I prefer the wooden cam clamps for luthiery. I built a go bar deck, and then wound up dismantling it.For whatever reason it is not sympatico with my building style. I don/t care for them , but they seem to work vy well for others, chacun a son gout. or each to his/her own taste.

Author:  the Padma [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:34 pm ]
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baby olyphant, concrete blocks? maybe a 50 ton hydrolic press...it don't matter as long as the glue holds.

simple eh!

Blessings
duh
?adma

Author:  CharlieT [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:36 pm ]
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I'd be lost without my go bar deck for gluing braces to tops and backs. I also use it for gluing tops and backs to rims, but that can be easily done with clamps or other methods. To me, it's bracing tops and backs where go bars really shine.

Author:  theguitarwhisperer [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:43 pm ]
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I use clamps.

I like them.

I don't carve all my braces at once as they get in the way of each other, for me.

I glue the soundhole and finger braces, carve 'em, then the UFB and LFB's, carve them, then the X-brace, carve 'em.

Author:  Rodger Knox [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:51 pm ]
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I think using a radius dish is part of the process. If you use a dish, I could see where gobars would be advantagous. I don't use a dish, so I don't use gobars, clamps for everything. I'm not necessarily recommending clamps over gobars, that's just what works for me.

Author:  arie [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:21 pm ]
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go bars for me. very versatile imo

Author:  Tom West [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:40 pm ]
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Clamps.........!

Author:  sdsollod [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:44 pm ]
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I like vacuum clamping braces...

Author:  James Ringelspaugh [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:07 pm ]
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I like cam clamps. After working with them for so long I've developed a good feel for getting exactly the amount of clamping pressure in just the right direction in just the right spot most of the time. I can finesse clamps a lot better than I can go bars, so they win most of the time.

Author:  mkellyvrod [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:53 pm ]
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I use clamps for most everything, but have some fire bricks that come in handy every now and then. Suppose I'd try a go-bar deck if I thought I had the room, but I'm pretty use to my clamps.

Author:  bftobin [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:17 pm ]
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Made about three dozen or so cam clamps way back when, and long before the days of go-bar decks. Never had any reason to to change.
I'm from the Padma school on this. What ever works and is handy at the time

Brent

Author:  Mike OMelia [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:12 am ]
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Arrows in ur quiver, variety is a good thing

Author:  Jeff Highland [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:50 am ]
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Once you Go Bar you never go Back laughing6-hehe
IMHO

Much quicker (important with HHG) more consistent even pressure, and you can do an entire back or soundboard in one go.

Author:  Ken Franklin [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:14 am ]
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Todd Stock wrote:
The other issue I see folks have with go-bars is with Titebond...a go-bar's line of action is through the tips...no matter whether it's bent like a pretzel or deflected just enough to reach max clamping pressure...so if the tips are not in the same vertical line, the low initial tack on TB allows things to slide around.


To solve this problem I have small cauls with sandpaper on the bottom that I go bar in place to locate the braces temporarily until the glue grabs.

Author:  Daniel Minard [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:05 pm ]
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I have about 20 shop-built cam clamps & use them for a variety of jobs. But the go-bar deck handles all my brace gluing & body assembly work. I wouldn't want to do much instrument work without the deck.

Author:  Carl [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:26 pm ]
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Thanks much for all of your responses. So far, at least, it looks like clamps are the preferred tool.

Author:  Clay S. [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:08 pm ]
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I'll use either depending on the time of year. When I'm just heating and controlling humidity in a small space (i.e. closet) I will use clamps. If the weather is cooperating I will use go bars. As with glue, I'm not too "hide bound" and will use what I think will work well for the particular occasion.

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