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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gibson L-1 plan? |
Kind of striking out finding the plan. Any one seen them ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
If you mean the fancier version of an L00 then the grellier plan is good and free to download. |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
mike-p wrote: If you mean the fancier version of an L00 then the grellier plan is good and free to download. Wait.:: I though the 0s and the 1-2 had different body shapes. Looking for the one w a rounder lower bout Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:54 pm ] |
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Yeah. Some of the later larger models were called l1 as well. Ken at kmg kits had a template but he sadly died recently and i don't know what is happening to his business. |
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| Author: | Bryan Bear [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:00 pm ] |
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mike-p wrote: Yeah. Some of the later larger models were called l1 as well. Ken at kmg kits had a template but he sadly died recently and i don't know what is happening to his business. That is a loss to be sure; I got lots of good stuff from him on this forum. I wasn’t on his forum but I bet people here were. Can someone ask there if the template is still available? |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:20 pm ] |
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Well I do know that I can get the mold from glen at blues creek. The template at Waldron. I just haven’t found paper plans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | J De Rocher [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:55 pm ] |
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SnowManSnow wrote: Wait.:: I though the 0s and the 1-2 had different body shapes. Looking for the one w a rounder lower bout Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro The Guild of American Luthiers website has plans for a Gibson L-0 which I think may have the body shape you have in mind, but I don't know if it's body size you're looking for. (Plan #6) http://www.luth.org/plans/instrument_plans.html |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:59 pm ] |
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The 0 guitars look like mini OMs I’m looking for the one with a much more rounded lower bout Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:01 pm ] |
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Like this Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | J De Rocher [ Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:41 pm ] |
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Looks to me like that's the same body shape as in the GAL Plan #6: Attachment: Gibson L- 0 plan.jpg
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
Ignore Ed |
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
That body shape is the 1925-1929 L body. It was changed to the more modern shape in 1929 and used until - I believe - 1942. Around the time of the transition they used 12, 13, and 14 frets, 2 different scale lengths, a couple of bridge designs, ladder, H, and X bracing, and at least 2 different soundhole sizes. They built guitars to this shape at the request of Nick Lucas as late as 1935. Some of Orville's hand carved guitars where close to this shape, the J-165, J-185, J-200 and super 400 were larger versions, the LG-2 3/4 size and the Les Paul are smaller versions. And many of their hollow body electrics have this lower bout too. Lovely and my favorite. I just strung up this 13 fretter in all-Alaskan Yellow Cedar last night. John Hall at Blues Creek sent me a cardboard 1/2 shape that I made my mold from. I bet he would sell that same piece to you. Ed |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:29 pm ] |
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I really thing that shape is attractive. How does it sound? Similar to an Om? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | Freeman [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:14 pm ] |
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Ed, that is just exactly my kind of guitar. 13 frets, eh? I think I would be completely lost. Which bracing did you use? Any progress pics? SMS, sorry about the thread snatch but that is just too cool. |
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
SMS I am the original owner of a 1974 000-28, much like an OM, and it is really a quite different guitar. Much smaller, not as much volume. I have built 3 to this shape, all x-braced. The maple guitar sound very smooth and is very well balanced. The mahogany 4-7/8" deep, small soundhole version that looks about like the vintage shot that was posted. She has a bit of bass to her - like you would expect from the smaller hole, but really sounds like mahogany. This one is cedar all around, with laminated cedar and osage orange braces (like a Larson) and is still fresh so will change. It is a little heavy on the midrange, but is very crisp. It also has as much sustain as my 000-28, and is the loudest of the 3 - impressively loud at this point. Freeman - I posted this starting in August under Doc-U-Build, and just finished the thread a couple of days ago. My daughter (an amazing player) is visiting this weekend, and I will try to get a video of her playing, and I will post it along with some beauty shots soon. SMS - I love this shape and size and am sure you will too. Perfect couch guitar. Ed |
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| Author: | Woodie G [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:03 am ] |
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Wonderful, Mr. Minch - I love that shape! On the L-1, it's interesting to note that according to Mr. Gruhn, the guitar was built as an archtop from 1902 to 1925, then in the same general shape and as a flattop from 1926 to 1929...it is my favorite shape for a small guitar, and one of the first things I did after inventorying the shop's drawings was to make a copy of the tracings of the 1928 Nick Lucas made when the guitar was in for neck reset, refret, and new bridge. Really a 'PJ" - as in 'Petite Jumbo' if we consider an SJ/MJ/LJ series as J-165, J-185, J-200; the 00 and 000/OM are significantly larger guitars, with the later L-0 and L-00 closer to the Martin 00 than the early L-1, L-0, and Nick Lucas Special. |
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
Here is a size comparison for you. On the left is the Mahogany Nick Lucas copy at 4-7/8" thick with the small soundhole. On the right is the Maple version. In the middle is a J-185 made of Scottish Oak. Second picture is of the backs. If I build the 185 again I will slightly round the area under the neck - it is too flat. Third picture is the Nick on the right next to a Nick made by another maker whose name I have unfortunately forgotten. It was in my daughter's shop for a little work. It is 13 fret with a large sound hole. Prettiest instruments around, IMHO Ed |
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| Author: | FlyingFred [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
I have a copy of that GAL plan. Contact me at fbellemare@hotmail.com should you want a copy. |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:12 am ] |
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Oooooo I got this this morning:)  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | Ruby50 [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:23 pm ] |
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Have fun Ed |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:48 pm ] |
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Pretty.  Where did the mold come from? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:17 pm ] |
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bcombs510 wrote: Pretty. Where did the mold come from? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro John at blues creek. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:48 am ] |
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Cool, I just picked up a 00 mold, template and bending form from him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
So I’ve ordered the plans from guild, but have yet to receive them . It’s been a week. Also, does anyone know what size pearl dots is appropriate for the fingerboard? Looks like about 8mm? But hard to tell from pics Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | junior [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson L-1 plan? |
Hey snowmansnow how’s the build coming along? I’m looking to do something similar and just ordered an L-0 plan from LMI and Georgia Luthier Supply. How far have you gotten? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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