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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:20 am 
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Are kerfing angled on arch-back guitars?


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 am 
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Yes. This is most easily achieved with a radius dish lined with sandpaper.



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:49 am 
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Are they? Sometimes at least not I believe.
From this webpage - http://chandlerbryan.com/BuildArchtop1.html
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In one way at least, archtop construction is a little simpler than flattop: the edges of the top and back where they join the
sides must be completely flat. That is to say, the edges of the sides (rims) are parallel.

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:07 pm 
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Colin, I thought he was talking about a normal acoustic guitar with a radiused back. Yes, an arch-TOP guitar is usually built with a flat connection between the rims and the plates (at least the ones I have built). Perhaps the OP can tell us which guitar he is asking about.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:21 pm 
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That would be a good idea.

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:33 pm 
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Are y'all suggesting most arched-back guitars/ukuleles are flat enough on the outer edge to not need angled kerfing?

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:03 pm 
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Depends on how you build it. If you make the back with a full radius then you need angled kerfing. But, if you make a back by carving from a thick piece of wood (like a traditional arch top guitar), or you form a back like in your photo, which shows a complex curve and re-curve resulting in a flat area along the perimeter, then you would leave the kerfing flat.



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:34 pm 
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So, regardless of the style, the kerfing needs to be flush/glued with the back-board.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:37 pm 
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Of course. You normally want joints to close up with little pressure before you glue them. Unless you have a specific reason to make a "spring joint" where you want some added tension.



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