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| Author: | Slim [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ever Use One These? |
My grandfather & uncles were both hobby carpenters and they always had a few of these things in a few different sizes hanging with the hand planes. I think it’s like a rasp plane kind of thing. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Yup, got one from my stepfather's tools after he passed. Got to get a blade for it. They do work and were popular, but lose their sharpness quite quickly.in hardwoods. |
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| Author: | SteveSmith [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
If I recall correctly they were based on tools originally used to shape foam surfboard blanks. And yes, they didn’t last long working on wood. |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
SureForm? They were like a plate of little shapers? |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surform |
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| Author: | Slim [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Hmm might work for bringing spruce tops down like a toothed plane. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Slim wrote: Hmm might work for bringing spruce tops down like a toothed plane. I'd be cautious about that. As I recall, they are not flat, but convex length-ways, can dig in at the edges on flat surfaces, and are basically a collection of mini-planes, so will seriously tear out if used against the grain. More suitable for neck carving I think. |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
There are much better tools available today. |
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| Author: | CarlD [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
We use a tool like that in the kitchen for grating cheese. |
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| Author: | Bryan Bear [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
I have one of those. I have never found a task in guitar making that it is useful for. |
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| Author: | Cal Maier [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Surform, used in the auto body trade to shape body filler before it had a chance to harden completely. Not the best for shaping wood. A good rasp is much better for wood. |
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| Author: | doncaparker [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Colin North wrote: Slim wrote: Hmm might work for bringing spruce tops down like a toothed plane. I'd be cautious about that. As I recall, they are not flat, but convex length-ways, can dig in at the edges on flat surfaces, and are basically a collection of mini-planes, so will seriously tear out if used against the grain. More suitable for neck carving I think. Ditto to all of this. The only thing I would even consider using a Surform for in guitar making is neck carving. But other things (like Dragon rasps) do a better job. Keep that cheese grater away from your spruce! |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
I used one on my first guitar around 1990. I think that tool was in Sloan's book which is what I was using back then. It's a bit brutal on wood but it does work. |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Yep we have several and use them to hog off material on bridges that are too high on lower end guitars where shaving the bridge as a last chance save at neck reset time when the economics are not there. They make very fast work of material removal. |
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| Author: | Dave Higham [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Microplanes are very similar, but do a much better job. Attachment: N 047.JPG Attachment: N 048.JPG
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| Author: | John Arnold [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
I still use one for neck shaping. The blade lasts a long, long time on mahogany. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
I have a selection of them, with extra blades still in the package. Round, short flat, long flat..... |
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| Author: | steveci [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Slim wrote: My grandfather & uncles were both hobby carpenters and they always had a few of these things in a few different sizes hanging with the hand planes. I think it’s like a rasp plane kind of thing. You can get a microplane blade to fit your surform handle. Steve. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
I like my horses hoof rasp! |
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| Author: | Woodie G [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ever Use One These? |
Lovely tools for drywall fitting and crafty large-scale foam work (e.g., children's Halloween costumes and set construction for high school musical productions...uncounted hours spent), but I would agree that Microplanes work better for our sort of shaping tasks in mahogany if a cabinet rasp and draw knife are not at hand. |
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