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| Author: | mikemcnerney [ Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | birds beak |
I am working with one of Birkoniums necks and it has the birds beak detail on the peghead. Does anyone have a close up of the finished detail either on one of his or one of yours. I'm just not sure how to do the detailing in the transition area. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
There are a number of ways to do the transition. The originals has an abrupt line where the peghead joined the neck shaft with the volute carrying past it and on to the peghead similar to the pictured. With one piece construction there are a number of different ways the transition can happen. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Looking at the neck blanks on Andy's website, I would hold the straight line on the face of the peghead where it meets the neck, and then curve the line on the back of the peghead so it meets the neck, and carve the points in between so they meet the curve of the neck, similar to what I pictured. Clear as mud? |
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| Author: | mikemcnerney [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Thanks Clay. I'm getting something from your picture but still a bit unsure. I'm guessing the neck profile stays the same till where the nut meets the neck or maybe even through the entire thickness of the nut?? |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Hi Mike, I was trying to find a good picture in my picture files, but stumbled upon this on the net, which shows things much better: http://www.earlymartin.com/headstocks.html Nut location is somewhat variable - sometimes on the neck and sometimes on the peghead. |
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| Author: | mikemcnerney [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
OK I'm getting much closer. I'll attack one of them again today |
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| Author: | Pat Foster [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Here's one of my birdbeak "cheats." Attachment: P1030182.jpeg
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| Author: | RusRob [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Perhaps this will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Uiy5PCoes A friend just asked me about this topic, I had saved this video (I save everything) and sent him the link. It pretty much walks you through creating a volute much like you are asking about. Cheers, Bob |
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| Author: | mikemcnerney [ Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Pat, could you send a picture of yours from the front so I can see the shape of your curve |
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| Author: | Pat Foster [ Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Here you go. Attachment: DSC_0026.jpeg
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Nice looking snakehead! I like the way snakeheads allow the strings to bend less across the nut. |
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| Author: | mikemcnerney [ Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Pat, Thanks for that pic. I really like your logo |
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| Author: | Pat Foster [ Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: birds beak |
Thanks, Mike. Commissions the last five years have all been classicals, and inlaid logos don't go over so well in that market, so I have a couple dozen of them from Andy DePaule stashed away. |
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