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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Just saw a post about this on Facebook. Anyone familiar with Iulius Guitars? Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar https://a.co/d/4mFnoWE He mentioned Greenfield as a contributing builder, maybe just in sharing techniques, I’m not sure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | Pmaj7 [ Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Wow, how did he take that picture?! Pat |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Interesting and pricey. No reviews yet but kind of tempting. Thanks for the heads up. Big problem for a lot of us is by the time you have built enough guitars and seen them back a few years later to get a handle on what does what your hearing has gotten so bad from old age the whole thing is moot. 
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
42$ to dial in your tone seems worth it to me. It sounds like a Gore/Gilet for Dummies. I’ll likely pick up a copy at some point, thanks for posting. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
From what I've seen of his posts on FB he seem to have studied the Gore/Gilet book and been reborn.... Except I've never seen him mention or attribute Gore/Gilet, even despite some people picking him up on it. |
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| Author: | Dave m2 [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Looks a lot like a straight rip off of Gore/gilet. Of course he might have worked it all out for himself... A very inelegant way of mass loading the sides externally. Maybe his explanations are very clear and make it worthwhile. Do let us know if anyone buys it what you think. Cheers Dave |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
It may be more of a users guide to the Gore/Gilet books rather than a ripoff, but I’ll have to buy to find out. Next payday. Just in case there’s something more I can squeeze out. I can say that for me, there’s definitely a before/after with the GG books and my guitars. |
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| Author: | Pat Foster [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Ordered. Should have it by the end of the week. I'll report back after I get my mitts on it. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
meddlingfool wrote: It may be more of a users guide to the Gore/Gilet books rather than a ripoff, but I’ll have to buy to find out. Next payday. Just in case there’s something more I can squeeze out. I can say that for me, there’s definitely a before/after with the GG books and my guitars. Yup, the "A complete package of calculation and simulation tools is available for download," may be an attraction for those struggling with the maths and spreadsheets |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
FWIW, I am completely incapable of doing any of the math in the G/G books, but you don’t have to be able to do the math. All the needed info is in the summaries written in plain ole English. |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
I didn’t even try, I read the material and use the spreadsheets to calculate. It’s totally possible the spreadsheet is not correct and I’ve been wasting time. I would never know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | bobgramann [ Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
I just bought it and read it (after Brad’s tipoff). I usually buy and read anything I can on the topic and usually learn something from each book, some more things than others. To me, this book seems mostly definitional. He goes down the same path as Gore/Gilet with much less detail, but enough for understanding the concepts. Gore/Gilet is easier to practically apply. Gore/Gilet is expensive, but if you join StewMax, the half-price for books deal more than pays for the subscription fee in that book. That said, while I got some tips from Gore/Gilet, it didn’t change any of my practices. Nicoletti disdains free plate tuning. I won’t give that up either. |
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| Author: | Robbie_McD [ Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
bcombs510 wrote: It’s totally possible the spreadsheet is not correct and I’ve been wasting time. I would never know. Hi Brad, I developed a spreadsheet based on the Gore/Gilet calculations for top thickness a few years back and posted it here a couple of years ago. Note that I sent the spreadsheet to Trevor himself and got the seal of approval. So if you are using my spreadsheet, you are in likely in the ballpark... Rob |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Thanks, Rob! I searched old posts and found it a few years back - Luthier Spreadsheet Combined was the doc name. Is that it? Equations, fingerboard, arc layout, etc... sheets in the workbook? |
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| Author: | Robbie_McD [ Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Don't think so Brad. The link to the spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ahHbj_KoVW7wiIxOkqo3r9ujJtirCso/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106696316853042284696&rtpof=true&sd=true Once you open it, download as a .xlsx file to open it in Excel. The "Template" tab references the formulae and page number in the books. The T1 and B1 tabs are the Top and Back working sheets where you enter your findings. Rob or: Plate Thickness Calculator |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Gore/Gillet Cliff Notes is not such a bad idea imho. But even with Cliff Notes you should still have the main volume. Has anyone heard of Giuliano Nicoletti before? Is he a master builder? |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
I had the same question, John. I’ve not heard of him, here is his website - https://www.iuliusguitars.com To be fair, I had never heard of Gilet guitars before the book either.  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Looks like he's an acoustic engineer so he's got some cred anyway. I'll wait to hear more opinions on the book
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Focal is no slouch in the audio world… |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
Robbie_McD wrote: Don't think so Brad. The link to the spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ahHbj_KoVW7wiIxOkqo3r9ujJtirCso/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106696316853042284696&rtpof=true&sd=true Once you open it, download as a .xlsx file to open it in Excel. The "Template" tab references the formulae and page number in the books. The T1 and B1 tabs are the Top and Back working sheets where you enter your findings. Rob or: Plate Thickness Calculator Thanks, Rob! I did a compare using sample data and the results are the same in both sheets. So there's that. Attachment: Luthcalc.jpg Brad |
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| Author: | Pat Foster [ Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mastering the sound of the acoustic guitar |
While I didn't delve too deeply into the Gore/Gilet methods, it looks to me like this book has a lot of the same or similar info, with less detail and not so much of the proofs or derivations of the G/G books. He does list G/G in his references. It's good info for me and with less verbage compared to G/G, it suits my unreliable attention span. For content, I think it's worth the $42, though it is cheaply bound, not a pretty coffee table presentation. |
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