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Author:  SkinnyJim [ Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Sanding and buffing

Has anyone tried eagle adrasives super assilex starter kit that Stew Mac just started selling .

Author:  bluescreek [ Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:54 am ]
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yes its some of the best stuff out there for finish work

Author:  Kbore [ Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:00 pm ]
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SkinnyJim wrote:
Has anyone tried eagle adrasives super assilex starter kit that Stew Mac just started selling .


Thanks for that heads-up, I just ordered a starter kit.
I have used the Kovax Tolecut Finish repairing kit by Eagle Abrasives, also carried by Stewmac. Its a five-star product for small repairs for sure!

I have found EA's product nomenclature rather confusing, and I just now figured out that Super Assilex and Kovax are both Eagle Abrasive offerings, although I'm not sure if Eagle manufactures them or distributes them. When I inquired to the company, they referred me to Google to search on the product names...... I'm not sure their customer support group knows either :?

Author:  bcombs510 [ Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Sanding and buffing

Flexible backed abrasives:

Assilex - 360 to 1500 - https://eagleabrasives.com/en/info/assilex

Buflex - 2K to 3k - https://eagleabrasives.com/en/info/buflex

Adhesive backed abrasives:

Tolecut - 800 to 3K - https://eagleabrasives.com/en/info/tolecut

Some things to consider:

- Depending on the material being sprayed and the quality of the topcoat application you may need to level first with traditional papers before moving to Assilex. Eagle techs recommended this to me.

- Assilex is designed with shallow scratch pattern but also means it will ride on texture. Make 100% sure the topcoat is flat before moving through 800+ Assilex.

- There is nothing better than this stuff and I have tried just about all of it.

Shout out to former OLF’er Toonces (Simon Fay) who brought this to the forum several years ago. The quality of the finish on my instruments thanks you. :)

Brad


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Author:  SkinnyJim [ Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sanding and buffing

In Stew Macs description clear coats can be sanded in between coats with the lowest grade which in the kit is 600. Seems like a stretch to me , but I’m gonna find out.

Author:  bcombs510 [ Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:50 am ]
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What clear?

Nitro I could see it, anything that is mechanical bond I wouldn’t go that high of a grit between coats. Sounds like a recipe for watching the layer peel off.


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Author:  James Orr [ Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:23 pm ]
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I have enough Festool Platin to last my lifetime, but I'm getting more and more curious about Super Assilex every time it comes up. Are the benefits the ability to dry sand (I dry sand with Platin 2), light scratch pattern, and sand quickly?

Author:  Mike_P [ Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:23 pm ]
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bcombs510 wrote:
What clear?

Nitro I could see it, anything that is mechanical bond I wouldn’t go that high of a grit between coats. Sounds like a recipe for watching the layer peel off.


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peeling off after taking some sort of light bump...in big chunks probably...

I deal with painted surfaces all too often that the painters used 600 between coats...it sure looks nice and smooth...then I come along with a freshly sharpened chisel that'll shave the hair off the back of my hand, proceed to route to within 1/32" of the finish line for whatever I'm mortising into this surface, then start chiseling the scribed finish line, and paint chips start flying

one of these days I'm gonna go rogue and pull out my dullest chisel, whack away with it and not care...the painter will fix it!!!

Author:  bcombs510 [ Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:12 pm ]
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James Orr wrote:
I have enough Festool Platin to last my lifetime, but I'm getting more and more curious about Super Assilex every time it comes up. Are the benefits the ability to dry sand (I dry sand with Platin 2), light scratch pattern, and sand quickly?

James,

Those are the benefits. The thing I appreciate most is the uniformity of both the abrasive and the resulting surface. I don’t seem to have any surprises going up through the grits or at the buffer. I also tried their indicator powder to see how it worked and it confirmed what I was seeing anyway, it’s very uniform and complete sanding.

Now, it could be I’m getting better at all this (likely). It could be that the shallow scratch pattern takes some of the “sanding through” nervousness out and so I’m being more thorough with sanding at each grit (likely). But I’m getting good results so I’m just going with it! :)


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Author:  SkinnyJim [ Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:49 pm ]
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Nitro is my go to finish. I just like the looks of it. Maybe I’ll be okay.

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