Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sun May 11, 2025 10:09 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:42 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:47 am
Posts: 189
Location: United States
First name: Cecil Wayne
Last Name: Carroll
City: West plains
State: Missouri
Zip/Postal Code: 65775
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I built a guitar for my brother last year and yesterday he mentioned that he wished he had had me make it a cutaway.

How big a can of worms are we opening if it is added now? More importantly,how much trouble will I have gettinig the lid back on once it is opened? No time to fish right now so I don't need the worms.

I seek your collective wisdom.TIA

Cecil


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:52 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:44 am
Posts: 987
Location: United States
First name: Joe
Last Name: Breault
City: Merrimack
State: NH
Status: Amateur
I wouldn't do it. But, that's just me. Perhaps a braver soul here would. I'd imagine you'd run into trouble with re shaping your heel block, making sure the new wood you add to make the cutaway matches the rest of the side...along with a host of other issues I can't think of right now. Just my $.02.

_________________
Joe Breault
Merrimack, NH
Perpetual novice


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:09 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:50 am
Posts: 3152
Location: Canada
It would probably be faster (and better) to just make a new box. Once you got that far you just might make a new neck while you were at it and then he would have two guitars....lucky guy! .

A cut away requires modified braces in the upper bout, you can do this to the existing braces as the cutaway requires removing brace material but you will need new sides (at least one if you could find a close match for the one that will be left) and you need to remove the linings. The neck block can be reshaped and you could re-use the neck, but you can see that by the time you tore it apart you could have put together a new box...see ...two guitars!

Good luck with it and let us know what you decide.

ShaneShane Neifer38973.7573032407

_________________
Canada


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:23 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:03 am
Posts: 6680
Location: Abbotsford, BC Canada
Just wait till Sylvan chimes in

Take a look at his way of making a cutaway and you'll be just fine to use the existing, finished box.

Here it is, very cool.

I'm sure he would help you out over the forum here if you ask him.

_________________
My Facebook Guitar Page

"There's really no wrong way, as long as the results are what's desired." Charles Fox

"We have to constantly remind ourselves what we're doing....No Luthier is putting a man on the moon!" Harry Fleishman

"Generosity is always different in the eye of the person who didn't receive anything, but who wanted some." Waddy Thomson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:20 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:16 am
Posts: 2692
This used to be a common operation on non-cutaway archtops back in the day, before preserving everything in its original condition became a fetish. Yeah, you can do it if you want to. Saw, install liners, add side section, bind, finish. Not easy but not the hardest thing to do.

_________________
Howard Klepper
http://www.klepperguitars.com

When all else fails, clean the shop.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:25 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:29 am
Posts: 960
Location: Northern Ireland
First name: Martin
Last Name: Edwards
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Ahh this suits my mantra perfectly....

If in doubt?


bung it through the bandsaw!!!!

_________________
My soundclick xx luthier blog xx luthier soundclick


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:59 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:48 am
Posts: 2094
Ugg...it just seems...so barbaric!!!

I would be worried about accuracy issues... the new material matching the existing sides, purfling, binding etc, finishing. It'll be a much harder job than making one from scratch.

hehe, if you succeed, you could always ask Frank at FRETS.come to write an article on it!! He always finds a way!!!Sam Price38974.5004050926


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:15 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:50 am
Posts: 3152
Location: Canada
You see I was thinking Venetian Cutaway.....if you go Florentine then Sylvan's description makes a whole lot of sence as a viable method...once you get the neck off!

Shane

_________________
Canada


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:12 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:44 am
Posts: 987
Location: United States
First name: Joe
Last Name: Breault
City: Merrimack
State: NH
Status: Amateur
I stand corrected...Althoug, I have to agree with Sam, it dooes seem barbaric.

_________________
Joe Breault
Merrimack, NH
Perpetual novice


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 18 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com