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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:12 am 
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Just a reminder.... that's it on the left.........

I'd just rigged a hot pipe to bend on and had tried a set of maple for a mandonaught, then I thought..... "Why not?" and started into the granadillo.

My bending experience is VERY limited. I've bent a set of EIR and some maple, so I'm not a master......

What I can say, is that this stuff takes AGES and a load of heat to start to "give". I'd planed it to the same thickness as the maple sides (as low as the planer/thicknesser will go) and the maple was FAR easier to bend.

There was a little of the grain letting go on the outside of the curves too. not cracking as such, just a few bits that'll need CAed back down again.

Ok yes, it's as splitery as splintery stuff!! I spent half a night with a needle retrieving all the bits from my hands..........

still, I do like the look of it, and it'll eventually be a guitar for a friend, topped by the lump of cedar laying on top of it here.........

Yes I know that there are some gluey drips on the inside, but none on the outside yet!!!!

Thanks Hibdon, I couldn't have got here without you!!!!!

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Looks like a guitar to me .

Looking good Martin, that's going to be a great guitar.

What are you planing for the accents (binding, bridge, FB etc...)?

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plan?

you don't know me very well!!!!!

As the guitar is for a Lady, I'm making it a little slimmer than if it were for a gibbon, so I trimmed a couple of strips off the sides before I started. I MAY bind with these, though I MAY go with mahogany.

FB will have to be rosewood and the bridge will be either rosewood or mahogany or something else I find laying about!!!!

I've been thinking about a segmented rosette using the offcuts from the back, but I stress the "thinking"

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Martin,
The guitar is looking good so far. Thanks for the progress pix.
Did you measure the thickness of the sides prior to bending? I would not even try to bend granadillo at anything more than 2mm (.080")

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Well ya live & learn doncha?

The sides are 2.7mm

If my hassles (wouldn't strech to calling them problems!!) help some other noob like me then all the better!!

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Well, live and learn....
What are you going to use or a top?

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Martin - Nice job! I'm impressed you were able to bend this stuff by hand at 2.7mm. When I get around to it, I'm going for 1.8mm.

I am wondering though, how long did you let the wood acclimate to your shop before using it? This isn't the wood from the Hibdon promotion is it?

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Wow, feel for ya Martin...I was playing football with the kids this summer and fell onto a thistle...managed to pull 73 splinters from both hands...the other ten oozed out in the three weeks following..

You learn so quickly!! That's some great, curvy bent Granadillo sides, there!!!

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I want to know how you got the top to levitate above the rims for that photo.

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Martin, that wood is beautiful, and your efforts so far look to be doing the wood real justice.

Perhaps we need here a list of amazing feats pulled off by the membership. A "Believe it or Not" section with its own page. Your "Hand-bent Granadillo at 2.7mm" would be both inspiring, as well as a hard act to follow. People would say, "real men don't bend Granadillo at anything under 2mm, and there was once a guy named Martin who could bend it at 2.7mm."

perhaps


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Building a doubleneck so early on in his luthier's career is another one...

I have loads more....


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Amazing feats pulled off by people too dumb to know any better more like!!!

Ok, answers....

yup it's the stuff from the promo. I reckoned that as I was gonna soak it and cook it, why'd I wanna leave it to reach the same humidity as my school workshop first?

top is cedar (in the pic!!)

As to levitating, I work so fast that gravity hasn't got a chance!!!.... think Ronnie Soak in Terry Pratchet's "thief of time"..... (Sam'll get that, the rest of you?)

as to the thickness, we just got a thicknesser/planer in school.....I fed it through til it was as thin as the machine would take it. the same as the mahogany that two pupils are putting on top of arched mantle clocks they're making and the maple that I bent first. As Granadillo isn't that common (the reason for Hibdon's generous offer in the first place) I didn't know that it was tougher to bend than tough stuff.....

Sam, they AREN'T INTERESTED in the loads more.....

and my lawyer agrees with me!!!

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[quote]think Ronnie Soak in Terry Pratchet's "thief of time"[/quote]


Ahhhhhhhh!!!!

That might EXPLAIN a few things!!!

Following your progress has thrown up a few major inconsistencies with the laws of physics and a bandsaw...



[quote]Sam, they AREN'T INTERESTED in the loads more.....

and my lawyer agrees with me!!![/quote]

Awww, I only got started!!! Sam Price39070.7787037037


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OK, progress.....

some of the offcuts from the granadillo back, cut into a donut with a fly cutter and chopped farther to make a segmented rosette.



Maple purfling strip round the edges.



Never tried this before.

so far.... so good!!


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