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Apologies for bombarding you with these but my long time guitar buddy and friend Bill Briscombe came round today for one of our meet ups. He played me his arrangement of "Cancro Cru" by the Asturian fiddler Anxo Pintos which was so lovely that I worked out a counter theme and we recorded it very simply playing together into a single AKG C1000S microphone. Both guitars are in DADGAD Capo III – it’s very much a work in progress but a nice start. It was also a chance to hear how two of the guitars I have made sound together. Here’s a picture of the two of us – I’m the Hells Angel with hair on the left:



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Cancro Cru

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Thanks DW. That was great. Great playing and sounding git-boxes. Oh, since you play lap-style too, I thought you might be interested in this blass slide!




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I meant glass slide, but maybe "blass" works. Yep, I think I'm crazy too. A.


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Beautiful tune and great looking guitaqrs too!

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So that is what bottle necking is all about!

Beautiful piece of music, even with the "Hell's Angels" hair-do!   


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[QUOTE=AStass]

Thanks DW. That was great. Great playing and sounding git-boxes. Oh, since you play lap-style too, I thought you might be interested in this blass slide!


[/QUOTE]

Alan,

That slide should be full (a nice chilled frascati would do) together with a side sound port and straw

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I REALLY love this type of music.

Thoroughly enjoyed this, Dave.

I want to record this onto my MP3, if you don't mind.

I've got a drop D (DADGBE) celtic fingerstyle book at home, Dave, can you recommend me any DADGAD celtic fingerstyle books? I have now enough guitars to keep in different alternate tunings...

BTW, have you got a Black Triumph 650cc Thunderbird parked up somewhere? Sorry to say this, but you look like a COOOL biker...


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Hey Dave, do you get the feeling Hesh is hinting at something?


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Hesh, Alan,

You know what they say "Hair today, gone tomorrow"

Sam,

Record away. If it's books about learning to play in DADGAD rather than tabbed "Celtic" pieces then I haven't come across many good ones. I would recommend Martin Simpson's 3 Homespun video/DVD's though that teach you about alternate tunings and their relationships together with many great arrangements of his to play. Even better if you can, get on one of his workshops. Other good teaching DVD's are Tony McManus's and Al Pettaway's alternate tunings one.

Best of all if you can afford (both time and money) a week away from the family in August is the Burwell Bash just outside Cambridge where you can learn from the great DADGAd guitarist Ed Boyd of Flook and enjoy a week long Session Fest.

The Hell's Angel thing is funny. My wife's brother is big time into tattooing and took my daughter Martha (she with the Weissenborn) to a "convention" once and she came back with the skull T-shirt. She got tired of it and passed it on to me. For some reason I like it and wear it lots. I just love the way people base their first impressions on the look rather than the person inside. One day though if I'm wearing it in the wrong place it could get interesting. I've only ever ridden a motorbike once in my life - honest

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Dave, A lovely piece indeed!

That’s my kind of music!

BTW, I really liked the other tunes you posted too!

Robert

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Great sounds again Dave, don't you just love playing duets, they are a lot more satisfying than soloing. I love playing in consorts or groups as you know from the O'Carolan duet I sent you.

There is too much today of what I call the show-off soloists, who are saying look at my technique rather than listen to this music, you know the army of tappers and slappers. We mustn't forget that this is all about music.

New rule for the forum, you're not allowed to post a picture of a guitar without a sound clip!

Anyway, Cancro cru has joind my 'Dave White' folder of MP3s. More please.

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EDIT: (I did promise myself I wasn't going to post on this forum until that blasted 'Edit' button was reinstated )

By the way Sam, in my youth in the 60s I had Triton, you know a Triumph Bonneville engine in a Norton frame. Best of both worlds.

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[QUOTE=Colin S]

By the way Sam, in my youth in the 60s I had Triton, you know a Triumph Bonneville engine in a Norton frame. Best of both worlds.

Colin [/QUOTE]

Thou art a worthy man, Colin....*bows*


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Dave and Bill,

That was the most relaxing, breath-out 4 min and 13 seconds I have had in ages, thank you. Not only do you build wonderful guitars Dave, but you and Bill are a fine team of accomplished musicians who manage to massage the mind of your listener with the most beautiful music.

Once again, thank you guys.

Colin,

As for you and that snort'in Norton. Those 3 barking pipes all hang'in off the one side of the Triton were music of a totally different kind. Flapping off the handle bars like a wet rag when you give that beastly triple a fist full was an awesome thing that can only be appreciated by those who stunk of Dubins and ground off the side of their boots prior to the Jap invasion. Talk about transporting...beam me up Scottie I remember mate

Cheers

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Ah a correction and apology, the Triumph Trident\ BSA Rocket 3 is the beast to which I refer. The homogenisation of age is a sad thing indeed.

The Truphy



The BeeSA



The REAL Norton Triple HogSlayer



Cheers and begs for forgiveness

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[QUOTE=Dave White]
Record away. If it's books about learning to play in DADGAD rather than tabbed "Celtic" pieces then I haven't come across many good ones. I would recommend Martin Simpson's 3 Homespun video/DVD's though that teach you about alternate tunings and their relationships together with many great arrangements of his to play. Even better if you can, get on one of his workshops. Other good teaching DVD's are Tony McManus's and Al Pettaway's alternate tunings one.

Best of all if you can afford (both time and money) a week away from the family in August is the Burwell Bash just outside Cambridge where you can learn from the great DADGAd guitarist Ed Boyd of Flook and enjoy a week long Session Fest.
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Thanks, Dave.

Woah, that course looks great. I'm planning a getaway later in the year in the form of a busman's holiday (luthiery or guitar playing) and this course looks awesome. I'll see if it can be a birthday pressie for moi.


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Sam, have a look at this site:Alternate tunings

If you just Google DADGAD or similar you'll find lots of guides to it. However, as you know (I think I sent you some in DADGad and drop D) I play a fair bit of Celtic stuff in various tunings, and my advice is to just get the tune in your head and improvise around it once you know the chords. The alternate tunings are very forgiving, and don't be constrained by other people's playing. By the way my favourite for Celtic is Low C, it's been describes as like DADGad but more so.

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Sam, by the way for Celtic stuff, particularly the Irish Harp pieces I've recently had a Damascene conversion to using a nylon strung guitar, it's obvious really! I'm probably the only person ever to play a Turlogh O'Carolan harp piece on a $10000 classical guitar!

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Dave, lovely playing and fine sounding guitars! It is a very satifying feeling when a buddy or three of mine come over and we all and up playing insturments that I have built, and I get to hear them all together. And there is only one way to record acoustic music and that is to hit the button and let it roll...

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[QUOTE=Colin S] Sam, have a look at this site:Alternate tunings

If you just Google DADGAD or similar you'll find lots of guides to it. However, as you know (I think I sent you some in DADGad and drop D) I play a fair bit of Celtic stuff in various tunings, and my advice is to just get the tune in your head and improvise around it once you know the chords. The alternate tunings are very forgiving, and don't be constrained by other people's playing. By the way my favourite for Celtic is Low C, it's been describes as like DADGad but more so.

Colin [/QUOTE]

EXCELLENT, sound RIGHT up my street. I've never had a knack for learning theory, and pick things up by ear very fast. Thanks for the links.

Low C...yup, I have a guitar for that purpose...


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