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Realy Beautiful Adam!

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Dave Bland

remember...

"If it doesn't play in tune...it's just pretty wood"

we got the ringer adam in here.    


Sweet work dude. And I really enjoyed meeting and chatting with you at
healdsburg...

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John Mayes
http://www.mayesluthier.com

Yes, That is the Zeidler Project guitar.

The Color is U.S. Cellulose Yellow MEK DYE. It's nasty stuff but it's the best. I drop it is McFadden Clear and mix it up. They make a ton of colors and if you mix them you can get a ton more. Anyone that wants more info feel free to Private Messenger me anytime.

This was a copy of a mid 60's Gibson that I did for a Guy. with the Brown Yellow and Red MEK DYE.

DANG!
Nice work Addam!

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Holy Mother of OTIS!!

(OTIS being "Order of The Immaculate Sunburst")

What's the base color for that one? Oy, that is lovely....

If you don't mind telling us more on this dye, may as well do it in public, so that everyone learns. Can you start a thread when you get a chance? Is it similar to the universal dyes used to mix auto colors?

I will get some info and some photos of the products together and post them this week. Some day I should make a Mayes Style DVD on how I do a burst. Because its as much about how you spray a burst.
The Color is only half of it.

[QUOTE=Addam Stark] I Some day I should make a Mayes Style DVD
on how I do a burst.
[/QUOTE]

That's not very impressive addam. All that means is you act like a big
goofball, and pretend to know what the heck your doing...

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Well, I'm really beginning to see why so many great builders send their stuff to Adam for the finish. Dang, that's the nicest burst I've seen yet. Incredible colors, and the transition is beautifully subtle. Perfect. Sign me up for that dvd!

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Addam: Is that the same MEK dye that LMI sells? I use LMI's and the fumes will make your brain curdle. I have only recently sprayed 3 bursts and have gained a whole new respect for guys like you! Dang, bursts are tough to do [well]

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tim...
http://www.mcknightguitars.com

Don:
Mary just saw the picture of the front of your Res and she said "Oh my, that's a BIG sound hole". Nearly spit water all over my keyboard.

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tim...
http://www.mcknightguitars.com

Hey Tim, it may be the same stuff LMI is selling. They sell it for almost $6.00 for a 2oz bottle. I get it from the guys making it by the gallon it's around $45 now I do use it fast so this works for me. If you only do a few Bursts or tints a year a 2oz. bottle will go a long way. As far as the smell, I think it is the worst thing to smell ever. It will make me fell bad right away. This is why always have my Breath easy running. It's is the only way to go. I have some other cool ways of using the MEK DYE right on the wood. It looks like it was done by hand, Rick Turner and I have been using it with Poly and it is working great.

Hey if anyone would like to call me just to talk about these kind of thinks, feel free to call me at my shop anytime 9 to 5 pst. I am always glad to spend the time in between coats talking shop.

831.429.8113


Breath Easy Pack

This is the breath easy Head Set. It Keeps finish out of your eyes and off your head, Great for buffing too. It's a great tool for all over the shop. I have it on all day. After 10 years I am used to it.
They go for around $900.00

What is that...Methyl-ethyl-kill-zone? I've read that stuff makes denatured alcohol look like kool-aid! Betcha don't want that on your skin, either.

Yea it's not the best stuff that's why you need eye,skin and lung protection whenever you use any solvent or other finish products. MEK Dye only comes off your skin with clear MEK, or Acetone, and you don't want to much of those two solvents on your skin! I just changed the clear face guard of the breath easy helmet because of a big spot of red dye right in the way of my eyes, now if I had not had the face guard down, it would have been in my eye, and that would be that. Also Nitrile gloves are great, solvent proof and cheap. I use about 15 pair a day. I will post a photo of myself in the full spray outfit. I love to walk outside in the whole suit, people get a real kick out of it.

Keep an eye on Harbor Freight specials and you can pick up Nitrile gloves for $5.00 / 100. They run this special a couple times a year and I usually stock up then. Great for oil changes too ;)

Thanks for the info on the breath easy pak Addam. I really need to get one of those. Are the replacement shields expensive? I would think I would go through a lot of those as me-thinks finish would tend to build up on them and make visibility difficult.

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tim...
http://www.mcknightguitars.com

Wow. I think Addam has taken this sunburst thing to the max. I don't
think I've ever seen execution even close to this. The subtle shading on
the Zeidler is exquisite. It just looks so natural. It's easy to feel humble
when you see the work of some of the talent on this site, but this just
makes me feel like, why bother? Of course, I probably will, but yikes!
Craig

[QUOTE=CarltonM] What is that...Methyl-ethyl-kill-zone? I've read that stuff makes denatured alcohol look like kool-aid! Betcha don't want that on your skin, either. [/QUOTE]

Carlton you are dead right. Probably the most hazardous solvent we, in luthierie will ever work with. The gases and liquid both are quickly absorbed into the blood stream through the pores in your skin. It is a major carcinogenic. I avoid this stuff like the pelage now. I tank coated during the summers while in college. Back then all the epoxy resin coatings used MEK as the catalyst.

Don, I've got to say I agree with Russell - must be a British thing - finish it in clear, the wood looks too good to cover with a burst of any type. Never liked them anyway, If you build with wood let it speak for itself.

Colin

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Addam and Tim, a tip for keeping your visor shield(s) clean and clear.

Tear offs!

Just clean it very clean, then wash the shield with warm soapy water(dish soap), but leave the water on it. Apply a layer of cling wrap(Saran wrap or whatever), and squeeze out the water with a rubber squeegie. Put as many layers on as possible, but fold a tab over at a corner for each one, before applying the new layer of wrap.

Then, as it gets coated and grungy, just gently tear off one of the layers, and you're back to clean and clear.

Old dirt bike riding/racing trick!

Yea Tear offs, Like in NASCAR, I have about 100 of them, they are made by 3m for the helmet I use, they are great. I change them at every pit stop



They look like this off the helmet. They are more clear than the photo shows.

Hey this mando is still going, it's dark,like the guy wants, but you can still see the wood. It has no clear in the photo. only color.