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I saw four inch mahogany billets with my delta 14, very accurate with a 1/4" Olson blade, general purpose. We used these saws in my building trades classes. So, I knew how good they were before buying one myself. They are now made in China, but judging by the quality of other products coming out of china these days, that would be no deterrent to buying one. Very happy with mine.

Also, when trying to determine if tools are any good or not, when sold on Amazon.com, you can get many folks idea of the quality of a product. If it gets a rating of 80 percent four stars.... it's a pretty good product. The ratings don't mean as much when there are only a few. But if there are twenty ratings you can bet it's pretty good if it hits four stars.

Hesh I recommend you move.
Seriouly though there are a number of 14" saws out there that would fit the bill. Delta, Ridged, Jet, Grizzly. The only thing I have seen in benchtop saws is similar to the Ryobi you have. The 14" would fit nicely in the bathtub if it isn't allready filled. Just kidding.

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Hesh,
I have the Canadian General brand (not Taiwanese)15" bandsaw.
I Think it is the best band saw in that class.

   Hesh, I would kill to see a pic of that bathroom... That is too good!

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Okay. I have GOT to ask this question that everyone else is thinking....

Will you please post some pictures of this bathroom shop?

Oh and start a new thread, call it "Hesh's bathroom shop" or something so we all can find itTerry Stowell38736.4044097222

Yes, please Hesh. Pictures!

The 14" Delta I have is very smooth and quiet. Not a benchtop, but has a 4" port.

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Would being a luthier in a master bathroom make you a Master Luthier?

Is there a toilet in your bathroom? I would think it would be handy for some of my mistakes
Evan

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Or if you built in a walk in closet a "closet luthier"   

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Brock Poling
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I have that same Ryobi, and wanted to look for a heavier benchtop saw and found the Grizzly 9" benchtop saw. I've had it for months, but I didn't immediately need it so it sat in the corner and I kept using the Ryobi.

I was initially impressed with the Grizzly because it's frame is really heavy and solid, probably weighs four times what the Ryobi weighs. I still haven't actually used it yet because I'm missing a little spacer that I need for attaching the table.



What I can tell you about the Grizzly is that the table sucks. It's more lightweight than the Ryobi table and the attachment leaves a lot to be desired, it's not well supported. It comes with a little 3/4" or 1" square tube for a "fence," I don't even know why they bothered including it. I'm sure it'll work okay once I get it set up, but I'm sure it won't be the big step up I thought it would be.

I'd find a way to get a 14" saw, even if that means working in your garage some. Last year, I fixed up my friends old 1946 Delta bandsaw, though I have to keep it at another friend's shop building about 15 minutes away. It's not too bad because 95% of the time the little Ryobi does all the little day to day stuff I need. I think I'll be shooting for a Ridgid or something once I get the electrical upgraded in in my shop (which is an upstairs bedroom in my old house). There's no way I'm lugging that heavy old Delta up the steps. It'd probably fall through the floor into my living room anwyay.

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Jonathan Kendall, Siloam Springs AR

you can get a Rigid abdnsaw at home depot. 14" saw I think, plus you can add a riser block if you want to. Plently of power for general duty stuff. I've cut neck blanks, resawn 7" maple, cut tops, bracewood, ect on them and it performs like a champ. Plus you can get em for like $300 give or take $50. Hard to beat that deal for such a good machine....

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Given the space issue, consider an INCA 710. A terrific small bandsaw with three wheels and a throat of 20". Not cheap, but apparently beautifully made, with lots of folks swearing by them.

Look for a used one as they have apparently "retooled" in the last few years with something of a reduction in quality.
Bob Steidl38736.4425231482

Hesh, I have the same model of the 1940's Delta/Rockwell saw pictured above and it has been a very accurate machine.   It's in great shape and cost around $250 used, about 4 years ago. I put new tires on the wheels and added a Duginski precision fence. A 1/4" blade works well on it.

Like most of these 14" saws, mine has a riser block to increase cutting height capacity to 12" but I haven't installed it yet.

It takes up very little floor space, much less than a table saw, but it's heavy. A roll-around base is needed if you're gonna be moving it very much.

I'll also put in a vote for a nice big pic of your shop room

[quote]Would being a luthier in a master bathroom make you a Master Luthier?[/quote]

I beleive it would be 'Master Bathroom Luthier'.

When you are finishing the guitar, how do you peeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

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Andy Z.
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Hesh...you are obviously not married? One of the great advantages of being single (I tell folks) is leaving wood on the dining room table for days.   

[quote]As promised pictures will be posted this evening for those of you sick enough to be interested[/quote]

www.bathroomworkshopfetish.com   

The bathroom probably isn't the best place to build once you've got some experience, but it is really good for #1 and #2.

Ron

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Somewhere in the middle of Arkansas......

How is the world would you do #3....what is #3.
You need to inlay a toilet out of pearl on your headstock!!!!!!!

Andy

This thread is really going down the toilet

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[QUOTE=azimmer1] How is the world would you do #3....what is #3.
You need to inlay a toilet out of pearl on your headstock!!!!!!!

Andy
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Using mother of toilet seat for inlay. 'Kay. Bye, gotta go (no pun intended)

Hesh,

I've used Woodnet forums for info on all sorts of woodworking stuff, tools too.

http://www.forums.woodnet.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

Of course, opinions there are all over the map. Not here, though....

You might be able to modify the legs on some of the lighter 14" saws (those that don't have an enclosed base) so that the saw could straddle the toilet, or fit into the tub or on your tub platform in some fashion. I know my bandsaw table is a bit low for me and I'm only 5'6", so a little extra height might be OK for you. Just a thought.

Patburbank38736.649525463

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[QUOTE=Evan Gluck] Is there a toilet in your bathroom? I would think it would be handy for some of my mistakes
Evan[/QUOTE]

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Or if you built in a walk in closet a "closet luthier"    [/QUOTE]