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I use 5 piece necks, but have started using one piece necks as my
standard on all new orders... I voted 1 piece necks.

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[QUOTE=John Mayes] I use 5 piece necks, but have started using one piece necks as my
standard on all new orders... I voted 1 piece necks.[/QUOTE]

John, why are you moving away from your 5 piece necks, or is that going to be an upgrade now?

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[QUOTE=Scott Thompson] [QUOTE=John Mayes] I use 5 piece necks, but
have started using one piece necks as my
standard on all new orders... I voted 1 piece necks.[/QUOTE]

John, why are you moving away from your 5 piece necks, or is that going
to be an upgrade now?[/QUOTE]

Yep it will be an upgrade. Plus some players do not like them. They are
heavier than a 1 piece neck, but on the flip side they are very stiff. Also
some like the modern look and some don't. It is slightly more of a fuss
with the 5 piece neck making sure the lam's are right on 90 degrees
perpendicular to the fingerboard surface, so it is slightly more work.

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My preferences:
1]Romanillos-style V-joint

2]Scarf

3]"One-piece", usually laminated.

I've also combined them, such as using a V-joint on a laminated neck. I have had one V-joint get dropped hard enough to break the hide glue line; there was no wood failure owing to the low shock resistance of the glue. It made for a pleasantly easy repair. I've never had a properly designed one fail in normal use: a couple of times i had problems using it on repairs when the stub on the neck was just too short. The Hauser/Martin style V would entail wood breakage, so what's the advantage for the extra work? And what's wrong with stacked heels?Alan Carruth38767.0139236111


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Stacked heels and scarfed pegheads are great! Strong and they save wood. It's all about the customer's perception that it is a shortcut/less desirable way to make a neck. They get their cues from factory made guitars that just bandsaw necks out of hunks of mahogany.


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I personally don't like the look of stacked heels, or scarfed headstocks.
But I love the look of the V-Joint neck. In fact I'm going to be building a
LaCote reproduction that has a v-joint neck so I'll be doing my first one
there!


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I always think that the old ways make a lot of sense if you remember that wood was expensive and labor was cheap. Martin started band sawing one-piece necks when they lost a lot of their skilled labor during WW I, and switched from cedro to the stronger mahogany. It wastes a lot of wood, and really can't be done quickly without a bandsaw, but that's what folks are used to seeing, now. Another example of how a mass-production method has displaced an earlier way of doing it that was arguably superior.


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