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Admit it - it was the llamas.......

Usually Thursday nights are pretty slow on the OLF and if you want a good fight you have to start it yourself.......  Not that I would know mind you.......

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Ive got a donkey... does that count?



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You need one of these up here



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A good idea.  Cover your butt during the rut



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Naw we have them all over here.
We have moose wandering around all over the our property
We think of them as pets
With a stay out of the way they do attack
and sound like a freight when they are moving through the bush
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Yikes ! What does that weird horse have growing on its head??

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My God that thing is huge. Holy Schmoly...I had no idea those things were domesticated enough to use as a work animal.

Do you actually pull some of your wood out of the forest with that thing?   

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Pets? Did someone say pets? we have them long-legged ones here, too. The short legged pets don't always agree to share, though....














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OK
Bill we good up here but the photo is a fake
Its a photoshop mock up
You could never get close to a bull moose.
It was a something going around the net a few years ago.
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The one with the cat looks real. Was that in your yard grumpy
This is the view we see most of the time when we go harvesting and see a moose



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GAWD Mario, does that monster ever try to scratch his head on you? My horses always used me when I took their halters off. How did you domesticate him? Have the harness custom made or did Babe leave his laying around??

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Oh no! Don't say PhotoShop! Billy is likely to cross the line with that moose!

Mario, are you still using your llamas to pack out some Spruce bolts "where no vehicle can go"?

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The moose isn't real sorry
These are our tonewood havesting heavy equipment
These Llamas can carry 200 pounds
So you can move a cord in a day easy
From hard to get to locations
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yes we are we also use the ATV
I don't know but sometimes I feel somebody is watching me

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That one's in a buddy's yard just a ways down the road, but I've had them in mine, too, as they come through to get to the lake. I also was stuck in my shop once because a bear was between the shop, where I was, and the house, 35 feet away. Oh, the joys of living in the  northern countryside.

We call 'em moose, swamp donkeys.... largest critter in North America, and it's most dangerous one, too, mostly because of collisions with cars/trucks.

Not all moose are un-approachable; they can be domesticated to a degree, and those bred in captivity can be handled quite well.

 Make great sausages, too <g>



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Yes I have heard that, I heard you could buy a moose in Russia
But here we aren't allowed to own them. When you catch a young orphan you have to turn it over to the Fish and Game Guys
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Thanks so much for warm comments,
OLF members.



I would like to explain the idea of naming our tone wood product. We do it for
one reason. And that is giving you a point of reference. It's a benchmark that
can be used to access the same wood and hopefully allow you to reproduce your
instruments should you find you had a great build with that one tree.



We go even farther in that we have tested logs from the same tree.



Let me say to date there is only one Curly Bear tree. The Curly Bear tree was
cut into 3 logs. Samples were tested by Brian Burns. The #1 log had a higher
"Q factor" (was stiffer and had longer sustain, less internal
damping) than the #2 or #3 log. So, there is even variation within the same
tree. When you find soundboard material that works great, wouldn't you like to
know if there is more of that wood?



As for runout unless you pull a
thread on the actual bolt you can’t see runout on a billet from a picture. On a
finished guitar you may see the negative effect but that could also be caused
by mistakenly having flipped one side of the top sets.  We hand split all our wood to try to avoid
getting runout. Most other dealers (Shane hand splits also)



use saws to do this.  We don’t.



As for my pricing, as Shane can tell you the wood is becoming harder to access
since the forestry no longer offers the cutting permits of old. So buying a log
can run into the hundreds of dollars (300 to 500) per cubic meter, The Japanese
buy raw logs here for their market and pay that without a second thought. To
get a Quality log you better bring the big bucks. One good tree can have 35
cubic meters (Curly bear tree) so after all is said and done you may have some
very expensive firewood and a few tone wood tops sets. Also we have lost 40
cents on the dollar in four years since the US dollar dropped like a rock.  Dacosta Logging has been a logging company
since 1955. The Company was started by my Father and we have remained active
ever since. So we have the means and the equipment to access the large timber
sales. I can officially announce today, that we won at open bid timber sale for
33,000 cubic meters of standing timber of which there is some volume of spruce.
And Fry it also has a lot of CP Fir.  Our
source is secure and available to all for the long term. We are a logging
company and the tone wood is a product of that venture.



Once again, thanks to all and



Merry Christmas to OLF and its Fine
Membership



Mario

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Wonderwood is our high grain count Lutz

because getting that high grain is a wonder without runout.

See pictures below



Curly Bear tree 35 Cubic meters


Hand Splitting

Hand Split Wonderwood Bolt

Wonderwood Grain Count



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Hey Mario

Welcome to the OLF

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Hi Mario, welcome!

We have moose over here as well; I live on the edge of a pretty big forrest and they sometimes take a stroll through our neighbourhood. People in the lumber industry over here think they are a bit of a nuisance as they love to chew off the tops on young spruce trees… I believe our moose is a bit smaller than its North American cousin, but the biggest one I have seen is one that lives on a hill top over in Sweden, check this out:

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This thread has become fascinating!

Welcome to the OLF Mario and thanks from me too for all the sharing about Lutz and mooses/moose.

I would imagine that when hit by a car the car loses and that some of the deaths might be rather horrific........  From the pictures they look larger then horses is this true?





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Welcome Mario, to OLF.

If you see the damage a small deer can do to a car, a moose must be like hitting a tree.  I have a good friend who's husband was driving while she napped in the passenger seat.  They were in a Honda CVX.  They hit a doe, and the front half ended up inside the car on top of my friend.  Totaled the car, both damage and stench, and my friend is still trying to recover after over a year.  Lots of nerve damage, that may or may not return fully.  As we continue to encroach on the habitat, and don't control populations, it's just gonna get worse.


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Thanks Guys
Yes the cars always loose. I hear of a hunter once hiding under a pickup truck when he wounded a bull.  Not much left of that pickup
when the moose walked away. 
You may be surprised to hear, Moose were not always common critters up here. They came in from the interior when the railroad was pushed  in the early 1900s.  (or so some old times have told me) The rail road didn't really clear the forest along the river (skeena) they lit it up and let it burn to create right of way.
The moose just came along after eating the young aspen in the regrowth. Keep in mind this is an old forest here and 60 percent is good only for pulp. The forest back in the 1800 was too dense for moose and they really had it tough to travel in dense under growth  and even tougher time getting good feed. If you want a moose to visit here cut down a few aspen and they will come.
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[quote=Spider Leahy]Oh no! Don't say PhotoShop! Billy is likely to cross the line with that moose! [/quote]

Ah Yes! My job is complete when I can smell the stench of fear!!

     I have nothing but respect for the Swamp Donkey! They're huge and can be quite mean!

     I don't know if I believe in moose making sausage though! How does the moose put the casings on the grinder when they only have hooves?

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That Moose looks familiar to me.......





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Oh Hesh, I believe that to be a declaration of war! Dear God, what have you done!

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