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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:58 pm 
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[QUOTE=Brock Poling]I disagree completely that the commercial side of the OLF is the Achilles Heel of the forum. I think that commerce is a vital part of any community and we should embrace it, not ban it, hide from it, or make it just a collection of our cronies who have something to sell.[/QUOTE]

Hi Brock,

Here's what I said: "In my eyes, the Achilles heel of the OLF is the fact that technological concepts, methods, and ideas are both freely given and sold here."

The last six words contained the gist of my message.

I went on to explain (too verbosely) that in my opinion, the most valuable commodity here is the willingness of members to share. By sharing, I don't just mean offering encouragement and aesthetics opinions. By sharing, I mean in-depth technological know-how, insights, methods, processes - you know, the nut-and-bolts real-word useful information for lutherie. I believe that information is the most valuable shared asset here. I hope that the OLF sees it as critical to protect and nurture the free sharing of information, even if some or all of that information may also be contained within how-to DVDs, taught in paid classes or seminars, or contained in books offered by OLF vendors.

I have no problem with the commercial side of this site, and have purchased from several OLF vendors with no plans on stopping. I won't rehash what I said about jig vendors and jigs for sale, as I think I covered it in my previous post. I wish Craig Holden great success in selling his FB radiusing jig, which looks like a very well made, time-saving jig for professional luthiers and those amateur luthiers tooling up to become professional luthiers.

Dennis

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Does this mean the binding jigs or other jigs made before the Holden ones came up have to be thrown away and now bought from a sponser or feelings get hurt. Most of the thing I have seen, were before this, not new idea's, but since a sponser can't look at others stuff/ See yea way down the road on this


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[QUOTE=stan thomison] Does this mean the binding jigs or other jigs made before the Holden ones came up have to be thrown away and now bought from a sponser or feelings get hurt. [/QUOTE]

Of course not.

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[QUOTE=Mario] It's like a smile; pass it on, and it keeps going around, and eventually comes back to you.
And we all like seeing a smile come our way, right?
Right![/QUOTE]

What's with the sappy feel-good Mario we're seeing here? I like the Often-Grumpy Mario better! Bring him back! This just isn't right!


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"Can't we all just get along"...you make me we want to puke!

Theft of intellectual property is theft. period.

I think it's time to shut down this forum. You are all communists who believe in the common sharing of all wealth. Puke I tell you...Puke..."come to my site"..."I'm so smart"... "I'll tell you how to do everything...for free"...yea right! listen to yourselves...makes me want to puke!

Brock, if your the last one out...please turn out the lights.


I am just kidding!
No rules rules...I want my liberator guitar pics back up! I am kidding again...boy...such heavy topics and responses...wow...just imagine if we really wanted to know your oppinions.


p.s. don't forget to call...I'm waiting...

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What's with the sappy feel-good Mario we're seeing here?

Just f^$&ing with your brains, man.

If ya want soemthing from my site, you have ten minutes to get it. I';m pulling it off-line. Screw you all. Make your own damned mistakes. See if I care.

Bah....





























































That better?


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DAVE! Your in rare form! BUT im ROLLING!!!

Really, though, this thread is pelted with oppinions, but if you read between them, there is some great info on compound radii <--------did I say that right?

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Dave and Mario....really...I'm laughing my butt off and my coworker is wondering what's wrong with me...
You slay me guys...

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