Here is Steve S. playing my parlor in Ervins shop
Here is the master himself joining a top
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:27 pm ] |
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Well it is 11pm and I am just finishing up in Ervin's class for the day. To say the least this has been an eye opening experience. Clearly worth the trip and expense. My approach will NEVER EVER be the same after this class is over. Ervin has told me that I can tell alll of you what ever I want, but all I can say is that you need to experience the complete package. As a respect for all of his experience, I certainly don't feel comfortable explaining his methods. Personally I don't quite understand them yet. This will take time to digest. He actually doesn't tell you specific ways to build, but he changes your thinking so you can figure out the problems yourself!!!! Also, I still have several days left. I will try to attach some picts |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:31 pm ] |
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Here is Steve S. playing my parlor in Ervins shop
Here is the master himself joining a top |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:34 pm ] |
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sorry about the pict size, but I am having a problem with photobucket and the thread won't let me edit |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:53 pm ] |
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No prob with big pics here. :-) |
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:19 pm ] |
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Thanks, Andy! Sounds like big fun! |
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| Author: | charliewood [ Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:06 am ] |
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Andy - werent you telling me a while back, that you were going to have mabye a "brace/tonebar - shaving/adjustment" discussion with Ervin? Did you have time for that to come up while you were there? How did it go if you did discuss it, and mabye you can share some of his thoughts on that matter? Cheers Charliewood |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:08 am ] |
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Not to seem like a wise*** or answer for Andy, but that is kind of the point of the whole class. Not only do you have a brace SHAVING discussion, but you have entire brace placement discussions. |
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| Author: | charliewood [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:20 am ] |
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Well I spoke to Andy a little while ago in PM's about a particular guitar that Andy was taking to the course with him, that he planned to have Ervin inspect and possibly adjust, if I remember correctly the Macassar Ebony travel guitar {which I happen to Loooooooooove} I was inquiring as to whether that particular instrument was inspected, and potentially and adjusted.... So I guess I could have phrased it better Brock, but thats what I was refering to, in particular. Cheers Charliewood |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:26 am ] |
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Charliewood. Hard to descirbe, but the guitar was evaluated. Nothing was adjusted. But related to my other thread, it was built in the flat world. If I built it in the "round" world, it would be much different. I cannot reveal a lot of details because it would fill the entire forum and the course is only worthwhile in its entirely. Clearly it is overbuilt 
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| Author: | Tim McKnight [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:22 am ] |
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[QUOTE=azimmer1] Clearly it is overbuilt [/QUOTE]
Weren't they all? 
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| Author: | microsmurf [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:19 pm ] |
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Could you give day by day overview of what happens in the class? I am really intersted in taking the class, but I can't seem to find "real" details of the class (I've read all the threads in this forum, watched the 5 videos from Ervin. I've exchanged some light emails with Ervin regarding the class, and etc.) For example, would I be able to do the following afther the class? - I want more treble, or more bass, or more mid on my guitar - I want more even response - I want to make it more punchy - I want to make it more mellow Do you talk about - body shapes and its affect on voicing - back tunning with the top I am hoping that the class will teach me a systematic way to get the voicing result I want, rather than radnom-trial-and-error-unitl-I-get-the-voicing-I-want route. |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:40 pm ] |
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Yeah, it covers all of that and more. One of the experiements you do is he gives you a tracing of a guitar shape and a set of instructions and you have to lay out the entire guitar and draw it to scale. Mine was a tracing of a small dread and the player wanted a 10 string guitar that had lots of mids and trebles and be easy to play by someone with small hands. It was a pretty simple matter of applying the info we used in the class to come up with a solution that would meet that criteria. Before that class I really would have had no clue. I certainly would have had a couple of educated guesses, but nothing I felt exceptionally confident in. |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:51 pm ] |
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Microsurf As Brock said it includes all you mentioned and a ton more. As he stated in another thread, you start from the wood structure in the tree and go from there. My example in class was a 24inch scale OM that was "loud as hell with a ton of projection." Ervin teaches an entire new language. You just have to experience it. For a summary of what we did each day, there was a 4-5 article in Guitarmaker Magazine a few months back. Ervin wrote a summary of the entire course. |
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