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| Author: | James W B [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:03 pm ] |
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Why do we always have to use newspaper to keep parts we don`t want sticking together to stick together.I mean why not waxed paper? It seems a lot easier than scraping paper off of wood.Just a pet peeve I guess.But is there a reason to always use newspaper? Man I really love this stuff. James W B 
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| Author: | nathan c [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:07 pm ] |
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I AM using wax paper!  I've got cork glued and drying on my workboard (ala Cumpiano) as I type. I'm using wax paper to keep the glue off of my cauls
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| Author: | Dale R. Kirby [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:25 pm ] |
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I read somewhere where wax paper could weaken the joint. May be just a legend but I started using the plastic bags from the store. Thin, flexible and can see through the lighter ones. I just make sure the printing is on the outside, not on the joint side. |
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| Author: | Mattia Valente [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:53 pm ] |
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I use clear or brown packing tape. Easier cleanup, doesn't stick to the thing you're gluing. |
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| Author: | Daniel M [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:09 pm ] |
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I used newspaper once & never again. Waxed paper or plastic wrap work fine if you let the joint dry overnight. Another good trick is to wrap your cauls in packing tape. A quick wipe will usually remove dried glue & its ready to use again. |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:51 pm ] |
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I never used newpaper. I use Kraft paper or wax paper. Never had a problem. If you do alot of glue up of things like binding with superglue you can make a long cawl with UHMW nylon. This isn't very expensive and can make very interesting cawls to help when you need that 3rd hand. john hall |
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| Author: | James W B [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:15 am ] |
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What`s UHMW? Is it necessary to let joints dry over night when using wax paper? Call me stupud. James 
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| Author: | SteveCourtright [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:38 am ] |
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Ultra high molecular weight |
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| Author: | gozierdt [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:00 am ] |
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I prefer waxed paper also. Why bother to scrape off the newspaper, plus the risk of staining, as mentioned. I also do some furniture work, so I also keep a big roll of the brown wrapping paper to catch drips and keep them off the floor or bench. Got that at Home Depot. |
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| Author: | crazymanmichael [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:13 am ] |
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news paper???? who dreamed that one up??? wax paper works fine. also wax works very well on wooden gluing cauls. news paper..... egad!!! |
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| Author: | Daniel M [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:27 pm ] |
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UHMW is "ultra high molecular weight" plastic. (polypropylene, I think). Great stuff for many applications. Super tough & too slippery for any glue I know of to stick well to. You can get it at most good plastics shops in rods, sheets etc. |
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| Author: | Martin Turner [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:45 pm ] |
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Newspaper only good if you plan on sitting waiting for your glue to set...you can read the paper while youre waiting 
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| Author: | TomS [ Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:24 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=Daniel M] UHMW is "ultra high molecular weight" plastic. (polypropylene, I think).[/QUOTE] Acutually it's polyethylene. Sometimes called the poor man's Teflon. I often see people mistakenly refer to it as Teflon. |
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| Author: | crazymanmichael [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:29 am ] |
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and in the old dyz it was mighty good for wrapping our orders of fish and chip, as well as the household garbage, but never to glue on. maybe put it on the floor to catch the drips, but never in contact with the work. |
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| Author: | Claire [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:14 pm ] |
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I use Glad bake... I think its silicon paper. Its great. Only bad thing is i keep stealing it from the kitchen supplies and when it comes to baking time there's none left and everyone goes crook on me... 
Great thing is i have like 12 rolls of it in the shop..
Now that works for me... 
cheers, Claire |
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| Author: | crazymanmichael [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:35 pm ] |
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have you had any problems with finishing any of the work where you used the silicone paper? silicone is generally considered an "avoid at all costs" item because of its effects on finishes. |
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| Author: | Claire [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:43 am ] |
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Hi Michael. That's interesting, and a bit mysterious. No I haven't had any problems at all. I've also used silicon paper between the mould and the guitar to stop the guitar adhering to the mould in the event of a spill or leak, and needed to do little if any sanding afterwards, and haven't had any problems. So its not like i'm sanding away some invisible offending stuff that fouls up the finish. I use shellac as a finish. I don't know about other finishes, though. I also saw Gerad Gilet's site and noticed a roll of the stuff on one of their benches, and i think they use nitro cellulose laquer on their finishes. Based off personal experience using the locally made product I can't see a reason to not continue to use it. It doesn't leave a residue, its tough, reuseable, waterproof, and you can even clean it. Cheers, Claire |
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