Colby,
Here is one way of doing this.
Bind the top and back and then use a file to remove material at the tip of the cutaway. Then miter a piece in place.
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| Author: | Colby Horton [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:25 am ] |
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I just finished assembling the body of my second florentine cutaway guitar. I have done one before but I didn't put binding across the sharp edge of the outline. I just mitered the sides so that it was a nice tight joint there. How should I put binding on the sharp edge? Do I use a regular strip of binding? Does it go on the inside of the cutaway curve or on the outside? Any info and pictures would be helpful. |
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| Author: | Robbie O'Brien [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:09 am ] |
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Colby, Here is one way of doing this.
Bind the top and back and then use a file to remove material at the tip of the cutaway. Then miter a piece in place. |
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| Author: | KiwiCraig [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:42 am ] |
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I think the mitered ones look best as Robbies diagram shows .They are , however, difficult to get tight joins ,particularly when you have side purfling to consider . I bound the soundboard first and got a good miter at the florentine junction . I then cut (with a chisel) an angle off it for the cross piece to fit. The cross piece angle was done on a disk sander ( and miter table ) . Next I bound the back and mitered the florentine junction . I cut the tip angle off to receive the cross piece of binding/purfling , (like I did the top) Now ,, here's the big tip ! I made another cross piece , identical to the one I was to fit on .( but shorter so it would easily trial fit between the top and back bindings) . With this spare piece I adjusted it's (compound ) angle on the disk sander until I got a perfect fit with the binding ( AND SIDE PURFLING ) . Having the disk sander now set to the correct angle , I then disk sanded the cross piece I am to use . I'm trying to post a pic but it won't do it at the moment . Will try again shortly. |
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| Author: | KiwiCraig [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:00 am ] |
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Hope this helps ,and you understood my process. There may be another way of doing it ! just couldn't think of one . Sure was tricky . An unmitered cross piece would be a whole lot easier ! |
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| Author: | KiwiCraig [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:04 am ] |
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OOOPPS , Sorry guys , didn't realise the pic was so big. Can't edit it either !!! 
Didn't really want that much of a close up on my miters  
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| Author: | Martin Turner [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:30 am ] |
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Too late mate youve just been busted! Nice work on the mitres. |
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| Author: | old man [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:04 pm ] |
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Dang, Craig, that's a big picture!! I had to back up from the screen for that one. 
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| Author: | KiwiCraig [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:47 pm ] |
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Once again Guys , My oppologies. I feel crap about ruining this thread. I wonder if Lance or Brock maybe able to reduce it ? Colby , I'm sorry to you most of all since you started the thread. Maybe you should start a new thread of the same name , part 2 
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| Author: | Billy T [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:38 pm ] |
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WOW!!! I can see molecules!! Is that a... quark on the upper left.... corner??? A Neutrino!!!! IT's A NEUTRINO!!
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| Author: | KiwiCraig [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:18 pm ] |
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Billy , Those Neutrino's usually sand out nicely . The quarks are typical on well quartered wood. I like to make a feature of them actually. Hey Guys !,,,, the picture ain't that big ,,, the guitar is 60 foot long
Nice to be able to show an incredibly enlarged picture of ones miters 
(please make it all stop )
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| Author: | KiwiCraig [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:08 pm ] |
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Todd , I have a resize programme . I just checked the K.B. size was O.K. and forgot to check the actual size. I'd edit it ,if I could ,,,,,really ! Geez!,,,, what a day !
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| Author: | old man [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:33 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=Billy T] WOW!!! I can see molecules!! Is that a... quark on the upper left.... corner??? A Neutrino!!!! IT's A NEUTRINO!! [/QUOTE]
I about hit the floor on this response, Billy. 
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| Author: | old man [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:35 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=KiwiCraig] Billy , Those Neutrino's usually sand out nicely . The quarks are typical on well quartered wood. I like to make a feature of them actually. Hey Guys !,,,, the picture ain't that big ,,, the guitar is 60 foot long
Nice to be able to show an incredibly enlarged picture of ones miters
Beautiful comeback, Craig. Great way to start my day. (please make it all stop ) [/QUOTE]
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| Author: | Colby Horton [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:33 am ] |
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My binding strips are .080x 1/4". I can't use a strip like that for the sharp edge can I? Maybe I can laminate. What are the dimensions of the binding strips you guys are using for the sharp edge? Are you mitering the ends and gluing it on square and then shaping it or what? |
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| Author: | Dave Rickard [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:24 am ] |
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Heck, I liked the big pic. Those miters are clean |
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| Author: | Steve Saville [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:48 am ] |
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Here is another way. 
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:01 pm ] |
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Steve, I think I see a pore that you missed filling.
All seriousness aside, kudos to you and Craig for doing cutaway tips that stand up to close (really, really close!) scrutiny.
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| Author: | Billy T [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:57 pm ] |
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[quote]I about hit the floor on this response, Billy. [/quote] I always laugh when I hear the word neutrino!!
All "kidding" aside! I think you made a mistake there Carlton!  Nice work Craig! Florentines are my favorite, and more work to get right!
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| Author: | CarltonM [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:21 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Billy T] All "kidding" aside! I think you made a mistake there Carlton! [/QUOTE]
Just quoting the great Steve Allen. He was hosting a TV variety show once, that began with a flashy production number. Steve came out and said, (paraphrasing) "I'd like to say 'You ain't seen nothin' yet,' but of course you have." I miss ol' Steverino. |
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