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Just to balance out this excellent thread:
http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11726 &PN=1&TPN=1

For me:

After taking a rubbish Dremmel and SM binding attachment combo to my firts build it has to be in a #1
-Routing the binding channels
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-Sanding Ebony/RW

I guess i may add finishing here too but I have only just started that so..watch this space.



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SANDING SANDING AND MORE SANDING,
followed by cutting the binding channels, and finally, letting'er go

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For me it is cutting the neck joint and fitting the neck then doing the binding. Hate both of these
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Yep, me and Tracy are in the same boat...it's fitting the neck. It's just time consuming, slow and somewhat nerve wracking.

I don't hate it, but I don't rush to get started either.

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Yep, neck fitting for me too..

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I hate binding the guitar...I use tape and my fingers are always pretty sore
afterwards.


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Sanding down an ebony finngerboard blank. I always come out looking like an extra from "Germinale" or "How Green was my Valley"

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I have to agree with all the sanding involved, unless it is part of an important shaping process. Binding doesn't bother me, but I haven't mitered any purflings yet.

Finishing is my biggest nightmare but I will try till I get it right.

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Hesh, you have to flick gently.  Squashing is not allowed on unfinished guitar tops. Maybe blow or suck the next one off with the vacuum.

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Cleaning up the binding for me.


Also gluing the bridge on always makes me nervous. I once glued a bridge in the wrong spot and I'm always afraid I might do it again  . The great thing about those kind of mistakes is that you only make them once (hopefully) 


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Most unpleasant part..... definately cleaning the shop!  Actually it is making jigs.  I need them, but hate spending the time making them.


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Hesh, never suck!!!Especially bugs. My most dreaded task is binding.I`ve been using a dremel to cut them and it`s dang near impossible.I did miter the bindings on my current build and it went okay,could have been better.Hopefully on the next build it will be more enjoyable,since purchasing a binding jig from Brock at the swap meet.Well for me it`s off to a family reunion this Saturday,so no guitar building for a week.I`m not sure I`ll know how to act.
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No it`s not.It`s actually my wifes family in Deer River Minnesota.If it was in Ann Arbor I would definately holler at ya.I`m sure I`ll be getting up there again pretty soon.My daughter says they are gonna need another bathroom.
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Fitting a dovetailed neck joint has got to be one of the most frustrating things I have done yet. #11 is a dovetail, but you can bet I will go back to bolt-on's afte this one.


that remioneds me.... gotta buy one of those bolt-on templates....


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For me, I hated cutting the fret slots by hand and installing the frets.  I bought 3 pre-shaped and pre-slotted fb's to reduce some of the work...


The neck joint is a close second.....


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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] It used to be binding for me but no longer. Now with the proper jig for me, a Williams jig, it was stress free and my results were finally excellent.

So the single most d***ded task in building a guitar for me is the final sanding. This includes any gap filling if needed, smoothing out the waist, shaping the bindings, rounding out the edges of the sound hole and a final, 220 grit flossing of the neck joint.[/QUOTE]

Hesh:

I have to ditto the Williams binding jig. The binding on my No. 2 build went perfectly...in fact, I was totally surprised by it all. I used a Ribbecke set up the first time, and it wasn't nearly as stress free. Truth is, binding was no big deal.

I am surprised however to hear your dislike of sanding. With the Festool setup you have, I would think final sanding - through whatever grit you desire - would be a snap. Have you looked into that Grizzly tube sander. Might consider one, makes quick, excellent work of the waist areas. Just a thought.

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for me i think it's got to be jig building. it's critical to the task and final outcome, but because i have such limited time to actually build guitars it always feels like too much time away from guitar wood.

and then beyond the jig building, i hate any part of the build for which it feels like i don't have the right tools. i've tried that dremel and stewmac thing on the binding channels and it made me mad. now with the right tools, there's a real pleasure in routing the channels quickly and accurately.
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[QUOTE=Dave White] Sanding down an ebony finngerboard blank. I always come out looking like an extra from "Germinale" or "How Green was my Valley" [/QUOTE]

Whereabouts are you getting your green ebony??


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[QUOTE=Bill Greene] [QUOTE=Hesh1956] It used to be binding for me but no longer. Now with the proper jig for me, a Williams jig, it was stress free and my results were finally excellent. 

Hesh:

I have to ditto the Williams binding jig. The binding on my No. 2 build went perfectly...in fact, I was totally surprised by it all. I used a Ribbecke set up the first time, and it wasn't nearly as stress free. Truth is, binding was no big deal.[/QUOTE]


I have had the same experience. Binding has gone from dread to no big deal, thanks to the F/W jig.


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