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Author:  Chansen [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:29 pm ]
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Hey All! Well here is my first big step towards a guitar... the rosette. It still needs to be sanded down a bit, but I figured I'd take a break to post some pictures. The wood is cocobolo from BobC and the abalone is from Andy DePaul (Thanks guys!!) - the purfling is 10/10/10 b/w/b.

I am pretty disapointed that a rushed the miters for the abalone, but overall I am satisfied very happy. The routing was slow but I was being extremely careful (you'll see why).





Say hello to Harley!


Prepare to be mortified..... yes, these are the tools that I used. Yes those are Home Depot bits - RotoZip or something. 5 bits for $5 and I didn't have any tearout though . And that is the Dremel circle-cutter which worked pretty nice actually. I obviously  plan on upgrading my tools as I go, but these worked in a pinch.
Author:  D Stewart [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:34 pm ]
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Hey Chansen, Looks really good to me regardless of the tools used. I look forward to seeing your work with "proper" tools. Work to be proud of already. Keep it up!
Author:  D Stewart [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:43 pm ]
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(I can't believe I beat Hesh to a post)
Author:  Chansen [ Thu May 31, 2007 5:05 pm ]
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I forgot to mention (though it is kinda obvious) that I did go with a bound soundhole too. I liked the look when I saw one of Rick Davis' guitars at the Westcoast get-together, and I copied his method for doing it.
Author:  KenH [ Thu May 31, 2007 5:13 pm ]
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Great looking rosette Christian!


Keep up the good work!
Author:  James Orr [ Thu May 31, 2007 7:19 pm ]
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Hello?! NICE first rosette!
Author:  KiwiCraig [ Thu May 31, 2007 7:45 pm ]
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I think your being a bit tough on yourself . The rosette looks great .
Please tell me how you bound the hole ? I like the look too. Well done !
Harley Rocks !

Author:  martinedwards [ Thu May 31, 2007 8:54 pm ]
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looks great from here!!
Author:  Chris Cordle [ Thu May 31, 2007 10:46 pm ]
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Wow, that is fantastic work whether it be a first or a 50th!
Author:  Sam Price [ Thu May 31, 2007 11:32 pm ]
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I actually love that rosette. Great choice of wood hue...it really sets off the brightness of the abalone.
Author:  burbank [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:19 am ]
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Great job, Christian! You're a braver man than I!
Author:  charliewood [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:01 am ]
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Hey that looks pretty snaz!! I think I may use a similar scheme on my rosette, although a different wood I really like the deep abalone blue through the center... very cool!
Cheers
Charliewood
Author:  Chansen [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:14 am ]
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[QUOTE=burbank]Great job, Christian! You're a braver man than I![/QUOTE]

I'm not so sure it's bravery... I'm just too dumb to get scared.

Thanks for looking everyone and the nice words, the only part I'm still a little concerned about is on the left side of the rosette. The purfling came up out of the channel a bit as I glued it and I hope I don't accidentally sand through it.

The soundhole binding was pretty easy actually. I started by taking the leftovers (center) of the cocobolo I used on the rosette and cutting out the center to get a ring (with the dremel and circle cutter). The ring has an ID of (aprox) 3.75" and is 0.080 wide. Then I routed a channel deeper and deeper on the soundboard as if I was cutting out the sound hole - but I left just a paper thin amount behind. The bit actually went through lightly in a couple spots. Then I basically just inlayed the ring in the channel. I used LMI glue and it was a very very tight fit - I put a weight on it and let it sit for 45 minutes. That was about it.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:22 am ]
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Do the tools matter, other than the pride in having them and the additional ease of accomplishing the task?  Seems to me you were able to accomplish the task, professionally, with the tools you had on hand.  Some people use a scoring knife and chisel.

Yours looks great.  If you hadn't said what you used, we'd have all thought you used a CNC Rosette maker with a pooch insert.
Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:35 am ]
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Looks fantastic.
A great 1st rosette. WAY!!!!!!! better than mine
Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:52 pm ]
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Very nice work for sure!

Steve
Author:  davidmor [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:28 pm ]
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Beautiful work!  Just to make you feel better about your tool choice, I did my first rosette and soundhole using the exact same tools you did.  I even used the rotozip bits.  I went slow and had no tearout as I suspect you did too.  Great job!
Author:  peterm [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:19 pm ]
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Disapointed with what?? It looks great!!
Author:  Chansen [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:42 pm ]
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[QUOTE=peterm]Disapointed with what?? It looks great!! [/QUOTE]

Just the fact that I rushed the whole abalone part. I could have spent more time ensuring that the miters were a perfect match... but i got excited and wanted to get it finished. Overall I am very happy, just mad because I  have to tell myself to slow down far too often.

Thanks for all the postive feedback, it helps to get some encouraging words.

Christian
Author:  Lillian F-W [ Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:10 am ]
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Christian, you have nothing to be apologetic about. I'd worry about you if you weren't excited about your first build. We all know that the first one isn't going to be perfect and its a learning process. Well, you've learned something. Seems to me that things are moving all as expected. Looking forward to seeing more. Toss Harley a biscuit for me.
Author:  Billy T [ Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:58 am ]
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I think it looks great, first or no!
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