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Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:09 pm ]
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I guess Tony was taking picts today.
I too got a email from Tony
This is my 12 string Lutz/Quilted Sapele OLF SJ!!!!!
(Shane and the Zootman)

This one will have my 1st BURST!!!!!!!
A very light golden brown burst.





Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:23 pm ]
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You know, finishing is a lot of work, but looking at your guitar and Hesh's, it strikes me that Tony has got to be having fun. Man those two are just alive, and it's got to be rewarding for him to see it happen.

Really nice, Andy.
Oh, noticed the same rosette as on the ebony guitar.
New theme? Or just duplicating a successful look?

Steve

Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:26 pm ]
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Steve
Just duplicating a look.
I am actually doing several in a row like it

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:46 pm ]
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Well, it's still working!

Steve

Author:  KenH [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:42 pm ]
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WOW Andy!  That is soooooo pretty !

Author:  LanceK [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:10 pm ]
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Gorgeous Andy!

Author:  bob J [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:16 pm ]
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How did you bend that very difficult wood?..and any tips?

Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:15 am ]
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Bob
It was easy to bend on the John H bender.
On the other hand. I use a double side technique which makes bending way
easier!!!!
I thin my outer piece.(Quilted Sapele) to around 0.055-0.06
I thin my inner piece (EIR) to 0.04
Both pieces and stacked together and bent together at the same time.
Once completed, they are epoxied together to form the side. Bending really
thin pieces is a snap....(woops not really a snap)
The double side technique gives you a VERY rigid side with no spring back
They support a thin top and back very well.


Author:  Dave Rector [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:11 am ]
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Andy, you wouldn't happen to have pics of the clamping technique for gluing up the double sides would you? Do you use a vacuum setup of some sort?

Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:20 am ]
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Dave
I will take some picts later.
Basically I have made an inside half mold that is a bit smaller that the guitar. So when the sides fit over it it is the correct size. I just use thin cauls and spring clamps.    Very easy. I routed a channel in the mold to hold the clamp.
Andy

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:23 am ]
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[QUOTE=bob J] How did you bend that very difficult wood?..and any tips?
[/QUOTE]

Bob I don't use Andy's double sided process but I have bent 6 sets of heavy quilted Sapele. The first two sets I bent at .09-.085 I had some minor cracking in the upper bout and waist and some minor faciting. The third set I bent at .070-.075 and had only some minor faciting. The rest of the sets I bent at .070-.075 but use that Supersoft 2 wood conditioner and had no issues at all. Sapele actually bend like Mahogany. It is the quilt that puts the bugger on the plate.

Author:  Andy Zimmerman [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:38 am ]
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Here is a pict of my clamping.
There is wax paper on both sides of the wood to prevent me from making my mold a single use item!!!!
The clamps just fit in the groove I routed in the sides fo the mold. I have made a mold like this for each body shape. It is just a bit smaller then the guitar to allow the thickness of the sides to give me the right dimensions


Author:  Philip Perdue [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:58 am ]
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Andy,

This is a very nice looking guitar as always. Except for the nice rosette, this is the look I’m working towards on the Bubinga/Lutz/Ebony/ guitar for my Father. If my even looks similar I will be pleased.

Philip

Author:  Dave Rector [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:13 am ]
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Thanks for the answer and pic Andy! That clears things up for my feeble little brain.

Author:  CarltonM [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:47 am ]
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That's going to be another nice one Andy!

Author:  WaddyThomson [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:57 pm ]
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Another beautiful guitar on the OLF.  White room pictures are fun for all of us.  

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