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How would you like to find that one on your bench for repairs?
This Les Paul train wreck recently was sold on ebay for more than two grand.

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why do i get the strange compulsion to agree to have it 'ready for you by friday - probably' and walk back to the workshop with beads of sweat appearing across my brow!?


 


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Unbelievable! Most times seeing stupid people or things in the news or in front of me have a positive effect on my feeling of self-worth. This poor, poor guitar befuddles me. I have now lost my place in the world. The only shred of decency in the whole story on this guitar that is saving my sanity is that it is still playable!
Dennis, thanks for posting this freak of the freak world.
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Those are called "tonebuckles" I use them for every repair.
Great photo! Classic Macguyver repair.
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[QUOTE=Evan Gluck] Those are called "tonebuckles" I use them for every repair.
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Evan "Tonebuckle" Gluck. - That has a nice ring to it!

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Cosmetics aside, how did he tighten up the turnbuckles??!! Yikes!

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hmmmm, lp's can be had for $800-850 + two turnbuckles from home depot, say $8.50 + can of bondo, $8.50 + 1hr labour = sale price $2000.

maybe i have the wrong business plan...


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Yeah, but presumably that is a 59... I don't think you are picking those up for $800.. Too bad he drilled a hole through the S/N... I bet they would have got more for it if that had been in tact and could confirm the age of the guitar.

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I don't see the issue with this, if you want that real vintage bluesy tone, you need to make sacrifices. If it takes turnbuckles to get there, then turnbuckles it is. I mean just imagine the LP growl you would get from that sucker when strung up with fencing wire.

On a serious note, if it be a 59, the buckers are worth 2 grand now days

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I saw this on ebay the other day and the going price was around $125


 


Can you tell why I wouldnt bid on it?




 


try to put a neck on that one


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just a tiny bit of springback because it's out of the mold. when the plates are on it would be just great.... i mean really... wouldn't it... you mean....


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As long as they didn't use epoxy, the neck block should come off without too much of a problem. Better now than when the top and/or back is on it.

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not being facetious this time, the apparent misalignment of the neck block really is probably do to the obvious excessive springback in the sides. for example, look at the misalignment at the waist.

and i do seriously think that it could all straighten out if returned to and clamped in the correct mold. but you would have to have a mold in the correct shape to do it, and particularly so because of the cutaway.

however, the mold would not correct the obvious flaws in the kerfed lining for the top.

as to why i wouldn't buy it, what would i do with it. could i fix its flaws. sure, but it would take more time than building a rimset from scratch. it isn't my work so i wouldn't sell it. i don't brace my tops the way the neck block is designed to accommodate. just be useless clutter in an already too cluttered shop.


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[QUOTE=Arnt] Cosmetics aside, how did he tighten up the turnbuckles??!! Yikes![/QUOTE]

Easy, just loosen the strings and relieve the tension on the turnbuckles!

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Hey there might be somthing to this. Neck adjustments with a twist.

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Michael you are too right. I don't know what I was thinking. If nothing else, it could be a poster child for using molds as you build.

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I think this is a case of where the cost of the repair is more than the cost of the original problem.
   In other words, just because you can , why would you?
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